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    • Hi MIE   I have prepared for the fact that I might not win, although I would very much like to but has been factored into my plans to deal with my current debt and helping to reduce it.    In in regards to documentation....I have been asking for specific information, which they have refused to provide me with since 2013 and not just since I received the claim.    I’ve not received any documents or a response to my SAR.    Particulars of claim in #5.    Defence below (I know it’s not the best, but it’s all I could come up with).   DEFENCE   1. The Defendant received the claim xxxxxxxx from the Northampton County Court Business Centre on 10/08/2019.   2. Each and every allegation in the Claimants statement of case is denied unless specifically admitted in this Defence.   3. This claim relates to an alleged salary overpayment.   4. It is admitted that the Defendant was employed by the Claimant from 02/02/2009 until 31/08/2011.   5. It is admitted that the Defendant has made a payment of £465 to the Claimant.   6. It is denied that the Defendant owes this whole amount as the Claimant has not provided the information and documents requested.   8. The Defendant is unable identify through financial records that amounts were received as alleged.   9. The Claimant has failed to provide bank account details of where payments were made despite being requested to provide this information.   7. The Claimants particulars of the claim fails to give adequate information to enable me to properly assess my position with regards the claim.   8. The Defendant contends that the Claimant is a public body that is requesting interest on a debt that is alleged to have been incurred as a result of a salary overpayment and not a credit agreement.   9. The Defendant contends that the Claimant is requesting interest from a date that is Statute Barred.   10. On the 12/08/2019 the Defendant sent a request for inspection of documents mentioned in the claimant’s statement of case under Civil Procedure Rule 31.14 to Claimant’s Solicitor].   11. Claimant’s Solicitor has not sent any of these documents to the Defendant.   12. The Defendant has asked the Claimant Solicitor if we may agree to extend the time period allowed for filing of the defence pending receipt of documents (as allowed under CPR 15.5), but no response has been received.   13. Under Civil Procedure Rule 16.5 (4) Where the claim includes a money claim, a defendant shall be taken to require that any allegation relating to the amount of money claimed be proved unless he expressly admits the allegation. Therefore, it is expected that the Claimant be required to prove the allegation that the money is owed as claimed.   14. The Defendant respectfully requests the court orders the Claimants to provide the necessary documentation in order for The Defendant to fully plead her case else the Claim should stand struck out.   15. In the event that the relevant documents are received from the Claimant, the Defendant will then be in a position to amend her defence, and would ask that the Claimants bear the costs of the amendment.   16. It is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief as claimed or at all.   Statement of Truth The Defendant believes that the facts stated in this Defence are true.
    • Thread moved to Debt Collection Agencies Forum.   Andy
    • We will also need a copy of the defence you submitted.I would advocate sending a CCA Request also...unless you legally request it they cant be in default.   Andy
    • the pursuers don't have to serve a DN the original creditor did the pursuers have failed to prove one was ever served. fatal under section 87 of the CCA    no signed cca nor relevant T&C's    
    • PDF only please read upload   yes block and bounce all email addresses.   dx  
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Hi i have recieved a PCN from athena anpr for going over the 90 min parking limit in lidl.

 

I was 14 mins over.

 

I have read previous threads and i am 50/50 on whether to ignore or pay.

 

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No you dont pay it read up about grace period in the thread next to youre today

 

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No you dont pay it read up about grace period in the thread next to youre

 

 

1 Date of the infringement

 

15/05/18

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date]

 

17/05/18

 

3 Date received

 

19/05/18

 

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4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [y/n?]

 

No

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event?

 

Yes. Cant see it me though.

 

6 Have you appealed? {y/n?] post up your appeal]

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up

 

No

 

7 Who is the parking company?

 

Athena

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town]

 

Birmingham Lidl carpark Bordesley Green

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A quick google search tells me grace period is 10 mins o was 14 mins over.

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Grace period is a minimum of 10 mins . Especially in a shopping centre. Queues etc. Plus going by the questions you answered, they already made a mistake and would be extremely stupid to take it further. It wont stop them trying though,


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Grace period is a minimum of 10 mins . Especially in a shopping centre. Queues etc. Plus going by the questions you answered, they already made a mistake and would be extremely stupid to take it further. It wont stop them trying though,

 

So should i email them to let them know why i wont be paying?

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Nope. Dont do a single thing yet. You name yourself as the driver and you make it harder for yourself. Right now they have no clue who the driver is, theyve already failed at the first hurdle with the NTK, as well as not allowing good grace time in accordance with their association.

 

Just sit tight and wait.


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Never email a PPC, you give them a way to hassle you for free.

 

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Never email a PPC, you give them a way to hassle you for free.

 

HB

 

Unless you're me. But I'm evil :lol:

 

I make it quite clear to them that if they reply to my "do_not_reply@" email address, they get their own email back 10000 times plus a 20Mb attachment for each email (so 200Gb in total). I've crashed Desperate Recovery Pass's email server about half a dozen times now. :evil:

 

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Unless you're me. But I'm evil :lol:

 

I make it quite clear to them that if they reply to my "do_not_reply@" email address, they get their own email back 10000 times plus a 20Mb attachment for each email (so 200Gb in total). I've crashed Desperate Recovery Pass's email server about half a dozen times now. :evil:

 

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Unless you're me. But I'm evil :lol:

 

I make it quite clear to them that if they reply to my "do_not_reply@" email address, they get their own email back 10000 times plus a 20Mb attachment for each email (so 200Gb in total). I've crashed Desperate Recovery Pass's email server about half a dozen times now. :evil:

 

Oh, the joys of having a private email server :wink:

 

Gotta be very careful with that.


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Gotta be very careful with that.

 

Oh, absolutely. Which is why, in the signature file of each email there is a very clear warning (25 point, bold, red, capitals) of what will happen if they do reply to it. Auto replies are ignored (so anything that just says "we've received your email" etc). It's only if they choose to completely ignore the warning and reply manually that email armageddon ensues :lol:

 

 

In fact, minus the 25 point text. Here is the warning from my signature file for the do_not_reply@ email address I use.

 

WARNING: PLEASE READ AND UNDERSTAND THE FOLLOWING.

 

DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL ADDRESS.

 

IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO SO THERE IS A RISK THAT YOUR OWN EMAIL SERVER WILL CEASE TO FUNCTION. THIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS SET TO PERCEIVE ANY MESSAGES THAT IT RECEIVES AS A THREAT AND WILL AUTO RESPOND IN KIND.

 

THIS IS LIKELY TO MEAN THAT YOUR EMAIL SERVER WILL RECEIVE 10,000 COPIES OF YOUR OWN EMAIL (WITH A LARGE (VIRUS CHECKED) ATTACHMENT (I'M NOT THAT NASTY)) WITHIN THE SPACE OF 5 SECONDS. THIS MAY WELL RESULT IN THE OVERLOADING OF YOUR EMAIL SERVER.

 

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Nope. Dont do a single thing yet. You name yourself as the driver and you make it harder for yourself. Right now they have no clue who the driver is, theyve already failed at the first hurdle with the NTK, as well as not allowing good grace time in accordance with their association.

 

Just sit tight and wait.

 

The fine will double if i dont pay in 14 days.

 

Also i cant find any where that the grace period is a minimum of 10 mins. Everywhere seems to say its max 10 mins.

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Athena are IPC members, so (loosely at least) operate under that CoP.

 

Here is the document

 

And you're looking for Section 15 (specifically 15.2) which is on page 12 :thumb:


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Oh, absolutely. Which is why, in the signature file of each email there is a very clear warning (25 point, bold, red, capitals) of what will happen if they do reply to it. Auto replies are ignored (so anything that just says "we've received your email" etc). It's only if they choose to completely ignore the warning and reply manually that email armageddon ensues :lol:

 

 

In fact, minus the 25 point text. Here is the warning from my signature file for the do_not_reply@ email address I use.

 

WARNING: PLEASE READ AND UNDERSTAND THE FOLLOWING.

 

DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL ADDRESS.

 

IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO SO THERE IS A RISK THAT YOUR OWN EMAIL SERVER WILL CEASE TO FUNCTION. THIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS SET TO PERCEIVE ANY MESSAGES THAT IT RECEIVES AS A THREAT AND WILL AUTO RESPOND IN KIND.

 

THIS IS LIKELY TO MEAN THAT YOUR EMAIL SERVER WILL RECEIVE 10,000 COPIES OF YOUR OWN EMAIL (WITH A LARGE (VIRUS CHECKED) ATTACHMENT (I'M NOT THAT NASTY)) WITHIN THE SPACE OF 5 SECONDS. THIS MAY WELL RESULT IN THE OVERLOADING OF YOUR EMAIL SERVER.

 

TO MAKE IT ABSOLUTELY CLEAR AND FOR THE AVOIDANCE OF DOUBT. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL ADDRESS.

 

Whats funny is that if they had ANY sense at all their email server would be set up to stop all of that as spam. Shows what kind of outfit they are :-D


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Whats funny is that if they had ANY sense at all their email server would be set up to stop all of that as spam. Shows what kind of outfit they are :-D

 

They try, bless 'em, but I just use a different email address every time I email them. They're learning though (slowly) to write to me rather than email :evil:

 

 

Anyway, we're so far off topic... Sorry OP :thumb:


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The fine will double if i dont pay in 14 days.

 

Also i cant find any where that the grace period is a minimum of 10 mins. Everywhere seems to say its max 10 mins.

 

sorry can you tell me where anything say FINE??


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Oh, absolutely. Which is why, in the signature file of each email there is a very clear warning (25 point, bold, red, capitals) of what will happen if they do reply to it. Auto replies are ignored (so anything that just says "we've received your email" etc). It's only if they choose to completely ignore the warning and reply manually that email armageddon ensues :lol:

 

 

In fact, minus the 25 point text. Here is the warning from my signature file for the do_not_reply@ email address I use.

 

WARNING: PLEASE READ AND UNDERSTAND THE FOLLOWING.

 

DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL ADDRESS.

 

IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO SO THERE IS A RISK THAT YOUR OWN EMAIL SERVER WILL CEASE TO FUNCTION. THIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS SET TO PERCEIVE ANY MESSAGES THAT IT RECEIVES AS A THREAT AND WILL AUTO RESPOND IN KIND.

 

THIS IS LIKELY TO MEAN THAT YOUR EMAIL SERVER WILL RECEIVE 10,000 COPIES OF YOUR OWN EMAIL (WITH A LARGE (VIRUS CHECKED) ATTACHMENT (I'M NOT THAT NASTY)) WITHIN THE SPACE OF 5 SECONDS. THIS MAY WELL RESULT IN THE OVERLOADING OF YOUR EMAIL SERVER.

 

TO MAKE IT ABSOLUTELY CLEAR AND FOR THE AVOIDANCE OF DOUBT. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL ADDRESS.

 

 

Even with that disclaimer you need to be careful.

A DOS attack, and that is what it is, is illegal.

 

Now on the flipside of that I think its genius and the are getting what they deserve

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Even with that disclaimer you need to be careful.

A DOS attack, and that is what it is, is illegal.

 

Now on the flipside of that I think its genius and the are getting what they deserve

 

and is covered under the computer misuse act. WHich is why i said be careful :)


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take the original advice, ignorwe them and certainly NEVER email a parking co or any or their gophers

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