UKCPM/gladstones Windscreen PCN Claimform - Vista Centre, Salisbury Rd, Hounslow TW4 6JQ ** Claim Dismissed**

[dx100uk]

Neither of which are a letter of claim

And no dca has any legal powers

They are not BAILIFFS

[ericsbrother]

usual drivel from them, ignore.

[maclarke]

Happy new year all.

 

It has come.. Gladstone solicitors have eventually written to me.

 

What do think my next course of action should be?

 

docs2.pdf

[dx100uk]

nothing as per post 26

PDF please too!!

dx

[lookinforinfo]

Happy New Year to you.

Ignore that letter too. This is DRP sending you a letter that appears to come from Gladstones to frighten you into paying. if it had come from Gladstones they would have asked you to pay them rather than the Drips since they would then get the commission on it rather than DRP.

 

Crafty b.....s aren't they. Questionable legality of course.

 

It is also why they advise you not to pay Gladstones as they know nothing about this letter.

[maclarke]

Hello All,

 

Update - I have received 2 Letters before Claim recently.

I understand this is now a bit more serious. What do you think is my next course of action?

letter Before claim1.pdf letter Before claim2.pdf

[dx100uk]

one of EB's snotty /insulting letter back to the solicitors for each one.

 

[ericsbrother]

they both refer to the same event so a single response is needed.

 

Dear Will and John,

as you like to misquote the BEAVIS decision in an attemt to hoodwink people into thinking your demands have some substance I will refer you back to that judgement and remind you that a grace period of AT LEAST 10 minutes shouild be given by an operator.  Abiding by this  is a requirement for a KADOE contract so your clients will know they have no reasonable cause to obtain my keeper details and no cause for action in this matter so  it is their choice, drop the demand  as it has no real chance of success for or risk a counterclaim for breach of the DPA/GDPR.

I am confident there are other compelling reasosn why a claim would fail but this answers the point regarding reasonable conduct under PAP

 

no need to spell out all of the reasons why they have no contract, if they are stupid enough to sue you they will learn at their cost

[maclarke]

Thanks EB.

 

I'll write the letter and let you know what happens.

[maclarke]

Hi Guys,

they replied to my letter.

Please see the attachments - the whole thing seems to be a waste of everyones time.

 

To refresh your minds, when this "contravention" happened, i tried every effort to pay for additonal time, but as I was in an alcohol and drugs test and i couldnt leave the room to top up the ticket. Also, their phones systems didnt work to pay over the phone.

 

Gladstones_Reply.pdf

 

the letter i sent is as attached

Parking Appeal - Gladstones.pdf

[ericsbrother]

Sniff the envelope it came in and you will get a waft of bullsh*t.

 

If they were honest they would have either told their client to drop the matter or used you without this further begging letter.

they cant guess about what you were up to and the time of leaving becomes irrelevant if their client issues a demand within the grace period.

 

However as they are also the IPC in a summer frock they want to look hard in front of their client or they may start to question what they are getting for their money.

 

Doesnt change the law and make Beavis decision your friend.

 

No real point in responding, they will do whatever they decide to do but they know it is a big risk for them.

 

Well no it isnt, Gladdys get paid however badly they do, it is their clients who are taking the risk

[maclarke]

thanks Eric,

I'll steer clear of writing a reply.

[maclarke]

Hi Eric (and all).

 

I just received another letter (please see attached).

 

Do you think this will go further? It's gotten to a point where I would like to go to a tribunal (or whatever)and argue the case. 

 

It's ridiculous

Gladstone 05-August.pdf

[dx100uk]

not a letter of claim

[ericsbrother]

Will and John,

who are Gladstones

are also the owners of the IPC

so all you have is a begging letter where they are wearing their summer frocks and bonnets to write them as it is hot on the first tee.

 

they also like to push the point that somehow you owe £160 when they know that isnt true but the SRA wont chuck them out for conspiracy to commit fraud.

 

There are less honest lawyers about though, my local vicar visits them in Lewes prison.

[maclarke]

Hi all..

it looks like Gladstone are serious about taking me to small claims court.

What should i do now?

Looks like I need to prepare for a trip to Northampton.

 

I'm moving flat soon and was hoping that I could ignore this and move on with life

- i guess not.

 

 

[dx100uk]

hi ya

I've removed the claimform upload as we don't need to see it

 

please complete this:

it will give us all we need.

 

should be a walk in the park this one for you.

 

and ofcourse no you wont have to travel to NCBCC as there isn't a physical court there

its just a processing centre [hence it says northants bulk court]

 

if they ever take it to the wire it will be at the county court you decide

 

 

[maclarke]

Does this mean that i'm likely to lose?

 

I don't want a CCJ to show on my credit score

[honeybee13]

You're a very long way from a CCJ. Could you tell us the information dx asked for please? It will help us to advise you.

 

HB

[maclarke]

thanks again, requested information included below as requested:

 

Name of the Claimant: UK CAR PARK MANAGEMENT LIMITED
Claimants Solicitors: GLADSTONES SOLICITORS LIMITED
 
Date of issue – 07 NOV 2019
 

date to acknowledge = 25 NOV 2019

 

date to submit defence = 09 DEC 2019 
 
What is the claim for –  
1.The driver of the vehicle with registration xxxxxxx (the ‘Vehicle’) parked in breach of the terms of parking stipulated on the signage (the ‘Contract’) at VISTA CENTRE – 50 SALISBURY ROAD HOUNSLOW MIDDLESEX TW4 6JQ, on 12/03/2018 thus incurring the parking charge (the ‘PCN’).

 

2.The PCN was not paid within 28 days of issue. The Claimant claims the unpaid PCN from the Defendant as the driver/keeper of the Vehicle.

 

3.Despite demands being made, the Defendant has failed to settle their outstanding liability.

 

4.THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS £100 for the PCN, £60.00 contractual costs pursuant to the Contract and PCN terms and conditions, together with statutory interest of £20 pursuant to s69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at 8.00% per annum, continuing at £0.04 per day.

 

What is the value of the claim? £255

 

Has the claim been issued by the Private parking Company or was the PCN assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim?  UK CAR PARK MANAGEMENT LIMITED

 

Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? No
 

[dx100uk]

pop up on the MCOL website detailed on the claimform.
.
 register as an individual
 note the long gateway number given
 then log in
.
 select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box.
.
 then using the details required from the claimform
.
 defend all
 leave jurisdiction unticked.
 click thru to the end
 confirm and exit MCOL.

 get a CPR 31:14 request running to the solicitors [if one is not listed send to the claimant]

no need to sign anything
.
you DO NOT await the return of paperwork.
you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform [1 in the count]

[maclarke]

Ok thank you, gents.

 

I've done the following:

• registered and submitted my acknowledgment of service on the Moneyclaim.gov.uk online website (using your instruction above).
• drafted a letter that i'll send this coming Monday.

Just to be sure, do I await the details from the Solicitor AND THEN submit my defence and counterclaim online (before 9th December 2019)?

 

Should I consider getting legal advise?

 

[dx100uk]

read my last post CAREFULLY

 

dx

 

[maclarke]

"you DO NOT await the return of paperwork.
you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform [1 in the count]"

 

ok understood

[dx100uk]

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