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    • Driver entered car park run by CEL Ltd .Tried to purchase lozenges  at Pharmacy , saw it was busy so left . Time there approximately 5 minutes . Left to go to pick up some goods  a couple of miles away . I have a copy of a collection of goods note with an approximate time on it  Stayed a while to chat with client On return journey stopped  to try again . Bought lozenges and left . There were no restrictions on returning  ANPR cameras registered first entry and last exit  Was sent photos showing vehicle with 2 blown up with the times on them   Company refuses to divulge landlord or show contract ....said it was data protection ! Photo of a sign blown up .....could be anywhere ! Been to site itself . No signs at entrance . When entering from main road nothing ! Where there is parking a few signs visible depending on parking space . Large sign on an external wall which can only be seen when walking out or entering from side road on the left . After a number of letters  I received demands from ZZPS ....a “debt collector “. They gave up on that ! This incident took pace in February . Now a Letter Before Court requesting details of my salary and how I intend to pay the debt  The length of stay is 40 minutes . Tiny car park !   Do know why there are even limits . Length of stay maybe 15 minutes in total . It is madness The pack of lozenges cost £185 ! Am 72 years old with multiple health problems ! Cannot let these cowboys win . Feel as though I am being intimidated . Very stressful ! Any  advice please ?I have drafted  together bits from all over the place ! Need it to stop ASAP !
    • Hi    This is my draft WS, please do let me know of nay changes or additions required, thanks.    IN THE County Court AT                                                                              CLAIM NO:      BETWEEN: CABOT FINANCIAL (UK) LIMITED   -and- (DEFENDANT)     ___________________________________________ WITNESS STATEMENT OF        INTRODUCTION    1. I, XXXX, the Defendant in this case, make this statement in support of my defence against the Claimant, Cabot Financial (UK) Limited.  The matters set out below are within my own knowledge, except where I indicate to the contrary.    THE DEFENDANT’S RESPONSE TO THE CLAIMANT’S WITNESS STATEMENT    2. The Claimant states in Paragraph 3, ‘….refer to various documents, true copiesof which are contained in the paginated bundle to this statement marked “JK”1’, but then states in para 4, ‘Acopy of the reconstituted agreementwith associated terms and conditions….pages 1-10’. There are 3 versions attached of the alleged Agreement and Terms & Conditions and according to para 4 they are not the original but ‘a reconstitutedversion’. They have attached 3 Agreements namely, ‘Original Agreement’, ‘Default Agreement’ and ‘Terms of your Capital One Credit Card Agreement’.  The Claimant has provided 3 sets of generic/reconstituted Agreement and Terms & conditions.     3. The Claimant in Para 4 also states ‘On or around 5thNovember 2012 the Defendant entered into a Credit Card Agreement,’ but Page 2 of JK1 has a date inserted 2/11/2012.  It has my name, address and a date inserted in the form but no mention of how the agreement was made, online, post or telephone, and furthermore not mentioned in the Claimant’s Witness Statement.     4. As a rule of thumb I always ensure that no 3rdparty is to contact me or to send me marketing information via telephone, post or electronically’, but Page 2 of JK1 has an unticked box, another indication that this is not an original agreement.    5. Page 5 of JK1 has too many typo mistakes in the heading as follows: TERMSOF YOUR CAPITALONE CREDITCARD AGREEMENT, furthermore there are no ‘full stop’ punctuations at the end of each sentence, this surely cannot be a document sent out by Capital One.     6. The Claimant states in Para 9 that my defence is a ‘templated defence’, requesting documents pursuant of CPR 31.14 and Section 78 of the Credit Card Act 1974, this is a defendant’s right for request of information but the Claimant has failed to provide the true original Credit Card Agreement and Terms & Conditions.   7. The Claimant states in Para 25 that, ‘the Claimant allowed the proceedings to be stayed in order to allow the parties to attempt settlement negotiations…..’ this is not correct as the Claim was stayed due to the Claimant not being able to provide the requested documents pursuant of my CPR 31.14 and Section 78 of the Credit Card Act 1974.   8. Para 30 and 31of the Witness Statement requests to restore the proceedings, to strike out the Defence, has requested for a Summary Judgement, together with costs to be assessed summarily by the court. I, the Defendant, strongly object to the Claimant’s Witness Statement requesting to lift the stay and enter Judgement. I believe therefore, that this should be denied and I respectfully ask for you to strike out the claim. My reasons for this have been outlined in points 1 to 7.    9. By the reason of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief and invite the Court to strike out the claim.   I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true.    Signed:  Dated:
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Hello all,

Thanks for allowing me here to post.

I have just received today in the post a forwarded letter from DRP Debt recovery Plus ltd. I have been living permanantly in France for over 6 months. The letter refers to a

Notice of Intended Court Action re an alleged unpaid parking fine on 2/2/18 at Roadchef Rownhams South (the motorway services in Southampton). Apparently, the driver remembers he stayed more than the free 2 hrs - just didnt think to get a ticket or mention it to me. GGGRRR.

 

The vehicle was registered to me, but not driven by me on this date, and I had no knowledge of anything till this letter arrived today.

They (DRP) state they sent me a letter on 10/4/18 (to my old address in UK) where I ceased to live since September. (forgot to tell DVLA).

They want me to pay £120.

Do I have to pay it?

Should I contact them?

Should I send them a letter at all?

 

Did have a look on Money Saving Expert but its very complicated and I didnt really understand. getting old, you know.

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Hello and welcome to CAG. I doubt if we're going to tell you to pay this, don't worry. :)

 

Could you post up the questions from the forum sticky with your answers please? It will help us to advise you.

 

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?462118-Have-you-received-a-Parking-Ticket

 

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read it properly

doesn't say FINE anywhere..if you are this far down the line

it might be better to simply continue to ignore them

until/unless you get a solicitors letter of claim


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Never pay a dca, especially when they ask for more money than the contractual sum they are supposed to collect.

We would need to see the NTK they sent originally to determine whether the the PARKING CO stand a cat in hell's chance of chasing you for the money.

Once we know the full detaisl we will probably suggest that you give them your address in France and suggest that they will lose a fortune dragging you back across the channel for this because they will lose anyway.

 

We keep advising people to make sure they update addresses, use post forwarding etc but still we see a large number of posts that are complcated by these things. The parking co's take advantage of the situation once they get one of their letters sent back RTS and that then takes time and money to undo their wickedness

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hello both, thanks for replies - I had to go lie down for a while, my heart was thumping and Ive had an awful day and came home to this letter.

 

The offence took place in the Roadchef carpark at Rownhams South services in Southampton on 2/2/18.

The Parking Company is CP Plus Ltd, and the debt recovery letter is from DRP Ltd.

 

My husband was driving a vehicle registered in my name and meeting the prospective new purchaser.

The vehicle was sold and the logbook changed that day.

 

Ive never received any earlier correspondence regarding this matter, as I no longer live in the UK registered address.

So - no Notice to keeper letter has been received.

Ive entered into NO correspondence with them.

 

The people who bought our house passed this unopened letter to our then solicitors who posted it onto me here in France.

 

I have no idea what was on the NTK letter (if there was one) or what evidence they have.

They say in this letter they sent a letter on 10/4/18, but I have no knowledge of such a letter.

 

This letter certainly makes no mention of the PoFA Act or Data Protection or GDPR or anything.

They want me to pay the unpaid parking charge of £120 by 9/5/18 or else they will pass their file back to their client with a recommendation to take further action against me.

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Hello there.

 

This letter really isn't worth getting upset about, you're going to be OK. Just do what the guys here suggest. :)

 

HB


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Thank you all. Didnt sleep a wink last night.

So, because of daftie's stupidity Im going to curtail his beer activity for a week as punishment. Thanks guys.

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now write one short simple letter informing CP+ of your current address


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you need to protect again a backdoor CCJ to the old address.


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post 8

that's all

inc the PCN ref no.

nothing more


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Sorry, Im obviously incredibly stupid.

Do you mean there is a template on POST 8 (8th post down in the list) or sticky?

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Sorry, looked again at the 8th post in the list and on the stickies (no 8).

Baffled.

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dx is suggesting a short letter, I imagine something along the lines of..

 

Dear xxx

 

[Heading] - their reference

 

I wish to advise you that my address with immediate effect is

 

[your current address]

 

Yours faithfully/sincerely

 

I expect dx will advise if he thinks anything else should go in.

 

HB

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I know what dx100uk is getting at here. And it's for you to have a bit of a giggle at CP+'s expense.

 

As you both now live in France, you can, with impunity, tell them your address and even who was driving if you wanted to (as he lives in France as well).

 

 

CP+ would have the right (if they wanted) to take you to County Court, but that would be a bit of a problem for them.

 

Normally, any case brought against you would be transferred to your local court. But that's not going to happen because you live in France. So, CP+, if they have your current French address, can issue proceedings in their local court, but you have the right to defend yourself in any case brought against you.

 

If they decided to go down the court route and lost (which is far more likely than they like to admit) they would then be lumbered with a bill for ALL of your reasonable expenses. Which could include air or tunnel fares, fuel, hotel accommodation etc etc. And there's not a chance in hell that they're going to take that risk.

 

Here's the letter I'd send to call their bluff.

 

 

Dear CP+

 

Ref PCN No: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

Since XX/XX/XXXX I have been living in France, the vehicle was only in the UK as the driver was visiting friends.

 

Here is my current address for any further correspondence.

 

French Address

 

Any further communication regarding this matter should be addressed to me at the above address.

 

If you want to proceed beyond empty threats and take me to court, you should be aware that I will be claiming for all of my expenses incurred with regards my travel to the UK to fully defend the matter.

 

 

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aw someone sussed me....dx


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So, I have had a response.

 

Letter says

"Thank you for your communication regarding the PCN.

The time to challenge the charge has now expired and therefore access to an Independent Appeals Service is no longer available.

However, if you would like to discuss your communication with one of our operatives, please telephone XXXXXX.

Alternatively, the outstanding balance of £120.00 can be paid using the options on the bck of this letter.

 

Please note that any correspondence that does not provide further evidence will be noted and retained. I cannot guarantee that we will provide a response"

 

So, ignore?

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good so they've now physically written to your address in france?


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Please note that any correspondence that does not provide further evidence will be noted and retained. I cannot guarantee that we will provide a response"

 

I'd write back once more and say...

 

Ref: PCN #######

 

Dear CP+

 

Thank you for your letter dated XX/XX/XXXX saying that any further comment would be noted.

 

I would therefore refer you to the response given in Arkell v Pressdram.

 

 

 

No name, no signature, no nothing :lol:


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So, yes, they have physically written to me in France.

And do I answer, and if so, ?

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nope nothing more needs to be done. post 17 applies


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