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Hi this is my first post...so apologies in advance if I'm not doing it right!

 

I've done the research after getting a notice from UKCPS.

 

I wasn't the driver at the time so they are pursuing me as the registered keeper.

 

What Id like to know is how the Protection of Freedom Act is being used by them to circumvent Contract Law...

 

My question is if I wasn't there and didn't read their signage how can I bound by their contract?

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Hello and welcome to CAG.

 

What stage are you at with this please - what documents have you had?

 

Best, HB


Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

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Hi

I cant find the original notice to driver.

.Im usually pretty good with keeping documents!

 

The event was on the 28/10/2017 but I didn't receive any documents from UKCPS until close to Christmas as they had been misdirected to a neighbours address.

 

I eventually replied saying I wasn't the driver and could they send me photographic evidence to help me identify the driver.

No evidence had been sent with the first notices.

 

UKCPS added that as i had appealed out of time that the parking charge would stand....Ill try and find the original documents.

 

However, I have asked their DCA (Debt Recovery Plus Ltd) to return the account as the charge is disputed.

I am about to reply to UKCPS and I'm inclined to test the default to registered driver..

 

.contract law is very specific and if UKCPS haven't breached the expressed terms there maybe a breach of the implied terms.

 

Sorry that was a bit of a muddle...Ill try and find the letters...thanks for your interest

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we've been there and done that in the minutest detail already.

see ericsbrother posts

 

find the paperwork please

and IGNORE THE DCA

they are NOT BALIFFS

and have

ZERO legal powers


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You won't get anywhere by arguing with UKCPS over contracts, either express or implied. If they had a brain cell between them, it would die of loneliness. They'll just drone on and on about the POFA and how it says "as keeper, you are liable".

 

The only way to prove them wrong is if they take you to court, and then you (and the Judge) give them a sound thrashing. But even that only helps you, it won't stop them trying it on with the next poor sod that supposedly "falls foul" of their T&C's.


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Thank you Dragonfly...I fully intend to go to court with them and dx100uk these are all I can find at the moment cheers

 

So if they didn't send photographic evidence with the original Notice to Registered Keeper but only sent it after the appeal had timed out...could that be seen as invalidating the process?

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ive removed the first letter

you MUST redact things properly.

read upload please!

and use PDF


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the photos of the in-out under anrp rules must have been on the NTK/NTD sent within 14 days

go DO and read the link in post 2 it tells you there.


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misdirection of post is not the doing of the sender so it is deemed delivered as far as the POFA goes if they sent it in time.

To determine this we need to know the date of the notice and the date you got it and if possible the date your neighbour received it.

 

Dont argue with UKCPS and dont respond to DR+ in any way shape or form.

You will beat them at this but you need to get all your ammunition stockpiled for when it does kick off properly and arguing about points that they will then invent evidence around is not productive.

 

You are right this is about contract law but there are many court cases and also relevant legislation that help one side or the other according to what each has done

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Hi ericsbrother..I figured late post doesn't matter...

 

I cant find the first NTD/NTK at the moment but am I right in thinking I should wait for a claim from UKCPS and not contact them between now and then.

 

I think i should go back to the carpark and get some photos of the signage...

cheers

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always wortyh big ahrad of the game so yes, get the piccies and anything else you can find to help. Not just sigange but entrance to the land from the public highway, lighting etc

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