ECP ANPR PCN Bishops Centre Taplow Time Exceeded

[wizpip]

Hello folks,

 

Infringement date: 11/01/2018

NTK date: 22/01/2018

Received: 25/01/2018

Schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012 is mentioned

Number plate photos were included

I have not yet appealed

Euro Car Parks are the company (BPA member)

Vehicle was located in Bishops Centre, Taplow

 

Was in Frankie & Benny's too long. Entered the car park at 18:50:40 and time on my receipt is 20:53:26, but we stayed chatting until close to F&B's closing time (11pm). Exit time was 22:59:16. Therefore I should have left at 21:50 and overstayed my welcome by 1hr 9mins.

 

Most other outlets on site close at 10pm - the car park was practically empty.

 

I do not think £75 for 1hr 9mins parking from 9:50pm is justifiable, expecially since 3 hours is free and you can park in Maidenhead town centre for £1.50 for that entire duration at night.

 

I know the steps are: appeal, reject, request popla, appeal, win (hopefully).

 

Given the above, which template should I use for my first appeal to ECP?

 

Thanks peeps

2018-01-27-bishops-centre-taplow-sign-and-pcn.pdf

[ericsbrother]

the signage is rubbish,

it says you MAY be issued with a £75 parking charge notice.

 

What exactly doesn this mean?

Are they saying you are entering a contract with them

and if that if you breach these conditions then there is a £75 charge?

 

If so why does the sig just have gobbledeygook on it? That isnt an offer for you to consider

 

also the small print says they are employed solety to provide a space maximisation scheme so how does their action fit in with this?

 

However them breaching their contract with the landowner doesnt effect the contract you have with them (but you dont have one)

 

the small print of their contract that includes this drivel can be said to be part of the agreement and in your situation it rather scuppers their claim for offering anything to you.

 

Appealing to ECP will get you nowhere but if you do they have to provide a POPLA code so you can apeal to the "independent" adjudicator.

 

However, Ombudsmanservices Ltd are not that independent as they work to very tight constraints

I fear you would lose your appeal as it is outside what they can consider and they will just say you didnt obey the signage so owe the money.

 

They never consider what the signs say so losing an appeal doesnt make any difference as to whether ECP are actually right or wrong.

 

So, to appeal or not?

 

Personally I wouldnt bother, it wont affect what happens in the future and you may just encourage them to think you will pay up having been told you lost when the alw is on your side.

 

I would let them do the chasing for the moment and then tell them why they are wrong at a suitable point such as when they threaten legal action.

[wizpip]

Thanks - I decided to appeal regardless.

 

In a separate matter, since I'm a web accessibility specialist by day, I informed them how there were multiple issues with their website which are in breach of the 2010 Equality Act and leave them open to prosecution.

 

I'm nice like that.

[wizpip]

How long do they have to reply to my appeal? Their auto response said they may take up to 35 days to write a reply, but it's been 42 now...

[dx100uk]

good

leave it be

[DragonFly1967]

Think about it wizpip. You don't want them to get things right. It gives you more ammunition in the long run

[ericsbrother]

no set time in law. Used to be a BPA requirement but they dropped that

How long do they have to reply to my appeal? Their auto response said they may take up to 35 days to write a reply, but it's been 42 now...