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Hi all,


Firstly, this is a great forum with very valuable content and discussion! I am a newbie but hope to add my input where i can in the near future!


I received a PCN from Brent Council a few days ago.

Images (attached) have been captured by a lanewatch CCTV camera

- that is actually not listed on their CCTV map (found on their website).

Perhaps it is not an 'approved' device?


They have 'apparently' captured my vehicle in a box junction,

but there are no clear pictures showing the number plate.

All of them are very blurry.


The last image in black is their only image which shows the number plate (i have scribbled over the letters)

but it is completely black and still does not show the vehicle in the box junction.

It looks like it may have been taken by another camera, but I cannot be 100% sure.


I have requested the video evidence, but I keep getting error messages online.


I wanted to know if I even have any grounds for appeal?

Any advice is greatly appreciated!





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these are stills from CCTV so seeing the entire thing will determine how long you were stationary if you were.


TfL and London councils have a code that allows minor transgressions

so knowing the time between the frames will tell if you were stopped longer than they allow and if you werent that is reason to appeal.


The whole footage should be a continuous thread to show it was indeed the same vehicle even if 2 cameras were used.


Now, there are 2 white cars that could be the subject of this attention

so you will need to see the whole thing to determine from the vehicles travelling towards you whether it has been wrongly interpreted.

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I successfully appealed two of these junction box notices a couple of years ago on the basis that the cameras were not approved devices.

Request the certification and then cross check with the department for transport.

My council sent me a link to a website listing a camera approved, but when checked with dft it transpired that the only approved device they had was their control room.

Ticket cancelled.

Things might have changed, but this could be a solution.

Junction boxes are just another cash cow.

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Moving traffic cameras dont need to be approved so you were very fortunate to get the PCN cancelled.

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Things must have changed.

I remember quoting the rta and it said approved device

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None of the Road Traffic acts cover moving traffic offences and never have done they are enforced using the London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003. Approved devices are only required for parking offences enforced by camera.

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