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    • if you wish to put up everything like    your defence claimants WS defendants WS   then im sure those here now and future victims will find it of value   if you read upload carefully you'll see its best to upload each as a separate multipage PDF but ofcourse you'll have to redact each page as a jpg picture 1st before merging each to the relevant multipage pdf .   dx  
    • Thanks I’m happy to put something back ! I didn’t have the courage of my convictions to counter claim even though I was really quite proud of the thoroughness of my court bundle ! i really wanted the opportunity to get into the detail with the judge and felt quite cheated when it ended, but of course I realised that they had just moved on to their next victim  will watch this space 👍  
    • I have created your own topic for this as its import to have it own one but placed a link on the thread you posted on.   you should never counterclaim that exposes you to further cost and rarely succeeds esp if they disc' the claim always best to state in a sep letter you will be seeking costs esp loss of days wages at £90 which most judges allow.   as for an sar, its p'haps always better to issue a cpr 31:14 too or in replacement of, an sar.   well done on your important win
    • My wife has directed me to post on this thread as I have just successfully won against these charlatans   My hearing date was all set at my local court for 31st October 2019 all defence papers were filed and served and frankly I was really looking forward to it! This morning I received a letter from BW legal stating in a one line response that I was to take this letter as a notice of discontinuance whereby the claimant KBT (armtrac) discontinues all of the claim. I am beyond disappointed that I didn’t get my chance to see these idiots across a desk! And that’s it I don’t appear to be able to take this further? I now realise I should of had the courage of my convictions and faith in the advice of others to issue a counterclaim! What I have now in my possession is a file of information which would be Gold-dust to the next person in my position! I feel like I would be able to get some sort of closure if I could pass some of this wisdom on but there are many posters here already and every case is different in its own way The key points in my defence were as follows and useful to anyone ‘caught’ at Sandy Acres. Keep the original parking ticket you purchased and send a copy to KBT with a covering letter ASAP do not identify the driver at any stage of the process!!!!  The blue sign uses the word penalty which is contrary to the IPC codes of practice  The red and white sign has a café open sign in front of it  which obscures it from the drivers view both available to download via Google maps Check the date you receive NTK mine was 71 days Do an SAR and you will get back the pictures of the alleged offence in my case they were of such poor quality you could not tell which way up the ticket was in the photo and in no image they held was there a picture showing the ticket and the vehicle numberplate. They offered no other evidence. Pretty soon you will see the money is being sought escalate until they no longer match the figure on the NTK even if it is sent within 56 days When you see a breakdown of costs for the money being sought it will ultimately include legal costs, typically £60 that the solicitor knows cannot be recovered in Small Claims Court. Personally I am now considering reporting BW legal to the law society or solicitors ombudsman for being party to a process which is fundamentally dishonest, an abuse of process, and a complete waste of court resources?   i am happy to help anyone who needs assistance but rest assured that their case against you relies on you caving in and paying, they have no plan B but will try and make you doubt your ability to defend yourself.   Dont worry about small claims Court, it isn’t crown court, just an office with 3 desks and certainly less stressful than a job interview or meeting with the bank and less at stake.   I got to one week from my court date and they gave up!
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Hi all,


Firstly, this is a great forum with very valuable content and discussion! I am a newbie but hope to add my input where i can in the near future!


I received a PCN from Brent Council a few days ago.

Images (attached) have been captured by a lanewatch CCTV camera

- that is actually not listed on their CCTV map (found on their website).

Perhaps it is not an 'approved' device?


They have 'apparently' captured my vehicle in a box junction,

but there are no clear pictures showing the number plate.

All of them are very blurry.


The last image in black is their only image which shows the number plate (i have scribbled over the letters)

but it is completely black and still does not show the vehicle in the box junction.

It looks like it may have been taken by another camera, but I cannot be 100% sure.


I have requested the video evidence, but I keep getting error messages online.


I wanted to know if I even have any grounds for appeal?

Any advice is greatly appreciated!





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these are stills from CCTV so seeing the entire thing will determine how long you were stationary if you were.


TfL and London councils have a code that allows minor transgressions

so knowing the time between the frames will tell if you were stopped longer than they allow and if you werent that is reason to appeal.


The whole footage should be a continuous thread to show it was indeed the same vehicle even if 2 cameras were used.


Now, there are 2 white cars that could be the subject of this attention

so you will need to see the whole thing to determine from the vehicles travelling towards you whether it has been wrongly interpreted.

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I successfully appealed two of these junction box notices a couple of years ago on the basis that the cameras were not approved devices.

Request the certification and then cross check with the department for transport.

My council sent me a link to a website listing a camera approved, but when checked with dft it transpired that the only approved device they had was their control room.

Ticket cancelled.

Things might have changed, but this could be a solution.

Junction boxes are just another cash cow.

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Moving traffic cameras dont need to be approved so you were very fortunate to get the PCN cancelled.

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Things must have changed.

I remember quoting the rta and it said approved device

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None of the Road Traffic acts cover moving traffic offences and never have done they are enforced using the London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003. Approved devices are only required for parking offences enforced by camera.

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