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    • Thanks for the welcome Andyorch   dx100uk - I have had 2 previous addresses since coming back to the UK.   Does this mean I should not ignore?   
    • I would be inclined to rip their WS apart. That way, I doubt that VCS would wish to proceed to Court.  In paragraph 5 VCS claim they have full compliance with their Code of Practice for Private Enforcement and Private Land. Really? Can this be the same VCS that was issuing PCNs between 2013 and 2017 knowing that the signage there had not been agreed by Liverpool council and therefore the signage was illegal. Here is an open letter from the Parking Prank   Tuesday, 19 November 2013 An open letter to Simon Renshaw Smith of VCS parking regarding Liverpool John Lennon Airport   19/11/2013 Dear Mr Renshaw Smith,   I wish to draw your attention to the procedural impropriety in your operational activities on the approach roads within Liverpool John Lennon Airport.   You are actively operating under contract to issue civil penalty tickets (PCN’s) for traffic offences on the roads such as stopping at the roadside, whether for seconds, minutes or even longer, or for parking on the roadside verges.   You are doing so based on an allegation of contractual agreement for a breach of parking conditions and are actively sending out a notice to keeper in each case where you ask for the name and address of the driver. You are doing this under the provisions of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012.   As you are no doubt aware, due to your many years of experience in emptying people’s wallets, where land is governed by byelaws the remedy for any breach of conditions of those byelaws is through the criminal courts, such as a magistrates.   Not only that, since the byelaws set an amount of penalty for failure to comply with them; a further amount based on your own assessment is unlawful at best and perhaps even fraudulent.   A set of the byelaws for the Liverpool Airport have now been obtained from a reliable source, Liverpool City Council,  which sets out the airport’s stance on roadway use, or misuse. It also lays down a penalty upon summary conviction for a breach of the byelaws of £5 for the 1st offence and a further amount of 40 shillings for a continued daily breach.   I put it to you that these byelaws govern the airport’s penalty regime for the alleged contraventions you are enforcing. In fact there is no penalty for stopping at the roadside. There is no offence committed so there can be no penalty unless it can be proven in a magistrate’s court that this action amounted to a failure under para 14: “Driving or placing a vehicle carelessly or dangerously or without due consideration for persons using the airport”   Para 18 gives notice that a “failure by the driver of a vehicle to comply with any direction for the regulation of traffic given by a constable or any person acting on behalf of the council or a traffic sign” will be subject to the penalty regime of the aforementioned £5 plus 40 shillings per day afterwards.   The mention of the traffic signs and the council's part in the overall monitoring means that the signs must be compliant to the TSRGD which are those shown for the public highways; not the ones arbitrarily stuck at the roadside by yourself which are meaningless in the context of the legal status of the byelaws.   Furthermore, POFA 2012 3(1)(c) states that Schedule 4 only applies on land on which the parking of a vehicle is not subject to a statutory control. It further states (3)For the purposes of sub-paragraph (1)(c) the parking of a vehicle on land is “subject to statutory control” if any statutory provision imposes a liability (whether criminal or civil, and whether in the form of a fee or charge or a penalty of any kind) in respect of the parking on that land of vehicles generally or of vehicles of a description that includes the vehicle in question.   The byelaws state at para 2.19 that the following act is prohibited. The penalty for this is a fine not exceeding five pounds.   POFA 2012 therefore does not apply, and you may therefore only pursue the driver and not the registered keeper. Moreover, you may only pursue them for the sum of five pounds.   Knowingly pursuing the registered keeper when POFA 2012 is an offence which the DVLA take extremely seriously and may ban you from access. The BPA wrote to you in their electronic newsletter this month reiterating this.   I put it to you, Mr Renshaw Smith, that your company is operating unlawfully at the Liverpool Airport site and ask what you intend to do since this has now been brought to your notice.   May I remind you that since this is an unlawful operation, you may well be required at some later time to recompense the amounts of the PCN’s already paid by drivers, and perhaps face tough questions in a court of law, not just a civil court.           Happy Stopping Briefly At the Roadside   The Parking Prankster   The Prankster would like to thank his source for the above   I am sure that you will find other examples of VCS not complying with Code of Conduct or the Law.   And of course VCS do not have the ability to take you to Court because you were a trespasser and only the land owner can take a trespasser to Court.          
    • Yes ...you have it confirmed by the court above that they requested a copy of the Order/Consent on the 2/08/2019....and then requested judgment on 21/08/2019 .
    • blimey J&P   I wonder how many more solicitor firms UAE creditors will try and use as a cheaper alternative to IRDWW and their cohorts that appear to have cost them £1000's in fees for nothing in return.   if this is not a letter of claim  pers i'd ignore them unless you have previous UK addresses since coming to the UK?
    • Thats the idea.....any further flaws with the reconstituted agreement ? They will be able to rely on a recon given that the agreement is post April 2007 but it must be accurate and a true copy of the agreement used from that date.   Andy
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ericsbrother, When you say deduct the line rental, do you mean going back to start of contract with True Telecom or when Chess took over or the final bill from Chess ?.

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from the final amount they are claiming for ending the contract early.

 

they are charging you for ther lost business up to a certain point in the future and you are telling them that they dont have to pay BT for the line as that has been taken from them by BT so it isnt a cost they have or will pay out.

 

If you retunred your car to a dealership you wouldnt expect them to tell you that you must continue to tax and insure it until next year would you?

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Thanks ericsbrother,

I will write to Chess and put that to them,

as i am paying rental now to Talk Talk who like Chess pay BT line rental,

 

Between the line rental deduction and unauthorised extras i have paid the final payment should be substantially reduced.

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Hi Folks,

I have been busy and did not send the letter to Chess as i had not heard from them since january

 

, now they have sent me another demand

 

i have written the letter tonight as follows

 

Dear Sir/ Madam

I left Chess months ago due to rampant price increases which were much higher than BT were charging me.

 

I am providing a list of unauthorised charges you have been taking from me and that i am looking for a refund on

Care level

Fraud monitor

Line assurence

Voicemail

Also line rental since i left Chess

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so did you stop the d/d or have you been paying them blindly ever since your first complaint? if not why not?

 

Sitting on your backside for 6 months doesnt impress us, the more proactive you are the easier it is to kill these things.

When are you going to do somehting to help yourself is the big question. You run your own business so I cant accept that you are ignorant of what that entails, it is your job to know.

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I stopped the direct debit right away as soon as the new supplier took over,

Chess for a time were sending online requests for payment every month and then they stopped after january ,

 

I was hoping that they gave up and left alone.

 

The letter is now posted 1st class proof of posting, I am also going to call Chess to let them know that the letter is on its way.

 

I have called Chess and spoken to the person who will probably read the letter, so she knows what the letter is about and that it is on its way.

The Chess invoice is for early termination of contract.

 

I explained why i left Chess.

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When you receive their usual response.....here is your response.

 

Should the alleged amount claimed include an early termination charge(s) amounting to the entire balance of the remaining contract. OFCOM guidance states that any Early Termination Charge that is made up of the entire balance if the remaining contract is unlikely to be fair as it fails to take into account the fact that the provider no longer has to provide and pay for their service.

 

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Thanks Andyorch I will use that to respond to the letter from Chess when it arrives.

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I have received

an an email from Chess which totally ignores the phone call i made and the letter that i sent which says pay up or legal action to follow.

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Pers i think its time to now ignore and bounce their emails?

Be the email doesn't say will anything


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Hi dx, what do you mean bounce their emails ?

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Dont accept then

Block the address

Bounce emails back

Use a search engine!


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Thanks dx,

 

The email is as follows

 

Pre Legal warning

Outstanding balance £500 plus

 

Please note your account has now been escalated to the Pre Legal department in respect of the unpaid balance to Chess Ltd which is now seriously overdue

 

you should contact 0844 or email prelegal to make payment or to confirm your intention with regards to this matter

 

The account will remain with the pre legal department for 10 days from today.

 

If the account is still unresolved it will automatically be referred to our Solicitors at which point it will enter a legal process incurring additional charges in accordance with the late payment of commercial Debts ( interest act 1998 )

 

Chess shares payment information with credit reference Agencies , failure to settle the balance will have detrimental to your credit score and rating.

 

Another option is to bring the services back to Chess in which case we can remove any termination fees levied.

 

I also earlier called Chess pre legal department and was told that they do have the letter that i sent in july regarding the unautharised extras and was told that Chess can off £85 off the balance, at which i said i have a much bigger financial issue with Chess and True telecom who sold the account to Chess and that is that i was paying way higher than to BT whom i left to go to True telecom.

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:mad2:stop ringing these people...

bounce the emails

block the address

 

writing only

 

lets see where they go.


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Thanks dx, I am going to send Chess a final email and tell them correspondence by letter only and that their emails will be blocked.

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I have sent Chess a final email, I have stated that i will not be sending or receiving any further emails from them and that all correspondence to be in writing by postal service.

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I have not so far heard anything from Chess since i emailed them stating that correspondence to be in writing through the post.

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email was a free and easy way to try and fleece you out of money

now go back and look at their email addresses and block and bounce them from now on


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Thanks dx , They can only reach me by writing to me now and if they do i will post on here for advice first.

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