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    • I can only speak from personal experience. But a similar thing happened to me. Seriously dented door.  I made the other insurance pay. They regarded it as a write off. Took the money, replaced the door. Never heard anything more about it.    Except clearly someone sold my details to claims company, because I got loads of calls in bad English for a few month's 
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    • Just to enlarge on Dave's great rundown of your case under Penalty. In the oft quoted case often seen on PCNs,  viz PE v Beavis while to Judges said there was a case for claiming that £100 was a penalty, this was overruled in this case because PE had a legitimate interest in keeping the car park free for other motorists which outweighed the penalty. Here there is no legitimate interest since the premises were closed. Therefore the charge is a penalty and the case should be thrown out for that reason alone.   The Appeals dept need informing about what and what isn't a valid PCN. Dummies. You should also mention that you were unable to pay by Iphone as there was no internet connection and there was a long  queue to pay on a very busy day . There was no facility for us to pay from the time of our arrival only the time from when we paid at the machine so we felt that was a bit of a scam since we were not parked until we paid. On top of that we had two children to load and unload in the car which should be taken into account since Consideration periods and Grace periods are minimum time. If you weren't the driver and PoFA isn't compliant you are off scot free since only the driver is liable and they are saying it was you. 
    • Thank you dx. I consider myself well and truly told :) x Thank you dx. I consider myself well and truly told :) x
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Hi guys, I am worried and I am looking for help.

 

Me and my cousin were caught stealing in primark for an amount about 50 pounds together.

They didn’t call police.

They just told us we will receive a letter with an amount to pay. They defined it Fine.

 

If we will not pay it they will send our document to the police land will arrest us for 48 hours. And we will add to criminal records.

 

I am asking for help to understand what to do when we will get the letters.

 

Also they told us that we will get the same letter and the amount t that will show on it it will be splitted in me and him ( for example 300 pounds, we need to pay 150 pounds each. )

 

Is that true? Or it si 300 each?

 

And also ?

Should we pay?

 

I am really worried because lots of my friend told me to pay,

but I read lost of posts here where no one has paid and nothing happened.

Waiting your answer thank you!

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First thing : It is NOT a fine.

 

Second: They had their chance to involve the police at the time of the incident. Just because you do not pay this "fine", does not mean the police will come and arrest you. The police have far better things to do than going around arresting people on the say-so of some cheap store.

 

Two pieces of advice:

 

1) Ignore the threats and demands from them unless it is an official court paper.

2) Don't go shoplifting again.

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I bet they didn't say anything of the sort:

 

If we will not pay it they will send our document to the police land will arrest us for 48 hours. And we will add to criminal records.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I bet they didn't say anything of the sort:

 

If we will not pay it they will send our document to the police land will arrest us for 48 hours. And we will add to criminal records.

 

Mate, sorry I didn’t explain it very well. First of all was my first time and never will happen again ( on a side I am happy, it happened)

Second thing they used this words and aswell made symbols with the crossed hands. Security was rude, people told me I could start run.

But I am worried how much will be the amount they told me, no idea 500-600

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First thing : It is NOT a fine.

 

Second: They had their chance to involve the police at the time of the incident. Just because you do not pay this "fine", does not mean the police will come and arrest you. The police have far better things to do than going around arresting people on the say-so of some cheap store.

 

Two pieces of advice:

 

1) Ignore the threats and demands from them unless it is an official court paper.

2) Don't go shoplifting again.

 

Thank you. So I gonna attacch here the letter when will arrive!

I don’t know what to do

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just read upload

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Mate, sorry I didn’t explain it very well. First of all was my first time and never will happen again ( on a side I am happy, it happened)

Second thing they used this words and aswell made symbols with the crossed hands. Security was rude, people told me I could start run.

But I am worried how much will be the amount they told me, no idea 500-600

 

ignore everything

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi and a welcome from me

 

Primark use Retail Loss Prevention (RLP) as their go to agent. RLP use language in their letters to make you think you are obligated to pay them. Not so!

 

What you will receive is what we like to call a 'speculative invoice' This letter will include misleading information. Don't fall for it. They may include case references to prove their point, none of which will have any effect on you.

 

Do not pay RLP. Once you were kicked out of Primark, they instantly forgot about you. RLP will send quite a few letters and may just pass on the case to a debt collector who can do even less. Saying that, I haven't seen in recent times where a debt collector has been involved as they tend to work on a no win no fee basis and they haven't been getting very far so a lot of them seem to not want any association with RLP.

 

The only thing we ask of shoplifters on CAG is to not do it again as otherwise it wastes our time and yours.

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have you not read any newspapers over the last fortnight?

 

the govt has instructed the police not to investigate certain crimes where the loss is less than £100 so even if they had called the police there and then no-one would turn up.

 

The stores sign up to the RLP scheme because they are sold an idea that it is a system that changes peoples habits and thus reduces the losses as the name suggests.

 

Problem with this though is that it is entirely unproven and the money you pay RLP doesnt go towards anything other than their pockets.

 

The store doesnt benefit one bit and most hardened shoplifters are on drugs so cant give up their habitual behaviour withour some other intervention.

 

many town centres run an intelligence sharing schemes so if you do go out and steal again and get caught it will have serious repercussions so use this as a lesson learnt

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