Jump to content
rossalyn

es parking PCN - central reads secure car park blackpool

Recommended Posts

es parking enforcement ltd

 

06/11/2017 central reads secure car park blackpool

 

not parked correctly within the markings of the bay or space

 

there is apprently four images which i cannot find on their site

 

there is one image on the pcn which i received on the 18/11/2017

 

£100 paid by 13/12/2017 and £60 if paid by 29/11/2017

 

i am sure i parked correctly but i have no proof as no ticket/notice put on windsreen

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

PLEASE DONT USE REPLY WITH QUOTE IF THE LAST POST IS THE ONE YOU ARE REPLYING TOO.

MAKES A THREAD TWICE AS LONG TO SCROLL THROUGH!

 

WE CAN'T GIVE ADVICE BY PM - IF YOU SEND ME A LINK TO YOUR THREAD - I WILL BE HAPPY TO OFFER HELP THERE

1. Single Premium PPI Q&A Read Here

2. Reclaim mis-sold PPI Read Here

3. Reclaim Bank Account, Loan & Credit Card Charges Read Here

4. The CAG Interest Tutorial Read Here

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If this was private property car park then the 'road markings' are meaningless and unenforceable.

 

Proivide the info requested and don't contact the PPC until you get the NTK in the post.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

OK the POFA cretaes a keeper liability for a claim for money due as a result of a contractual obligation or a breach of contract if certain conditions are met.

 

If they were slapping a ticket on the car they have to send out the NTK in a certain time frame.

If they wish to use ANPR or other methods where a ticket isnt given to the driver certain other conditions must be met and that includes sending out the NTK in a certain time frame ( they got that right) and showing any evidence that the notice was brought to the attention of the driver.

 

Now as they have used a hand held device ( a camera at least) why havent they then notified the driver at the time as they are obliged to tell you as the keeper the hows and whys.

 

Post up the letter with your personal details and any reference numbers, barcodes or QR codes redacted and we will pick holes in it.

ES are not honest brokers and undoubtedly they still get things massively wrong.

 

After that we may ask to see images of the signage at the car park but no hurry for that, nothing can happen for a month

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

thanks for reply

im having bother getting used to this forum i have sent you two messages but were not submitted

what is an ntk

 

thanks for reply how do i post up the letter

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
thanks for reply

im having bother getting used to this forum i have sent you two messages but were not submitted

what is an ntk

 

Here's a link to the forum stikky with commonly used abbreviations.

 

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?168275-Posting-in-this-Forum-and-A-Z-of-Motoring-Terms

 

Edit: you can't PM ericsbrother because you don't have enough posts. Advice is normally best kept on the public thread; if you anonymise the details, there's no reason why you can't post to this thread.

 

HB


Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

pst..

if you complete the link in post 2

it explains everything you need to know and we need to know...hint...


PLEASE DONT USE REPLY WITH QUOTE IF THE LAST POST IS THE ONE YOU ARE REPLYING TOO.

MAKES A THREAD TWICE AS LONG TO SCROLL THROUGH!

 

WE CAN'T GIVE ADVICE BY PM - IF YOU SEND ME A LINK TO YOUR THREAD - I WILL BE HAPPY TO OFFER HELP THERE

1. Single Premium PPI Q&A Read Here

2. Reclaim mis-sold PPI Read Here

3. Reclaim Bank Account, Loan & Credit Card Charges Read Here

4. The CAG Interest Tutorial Read Here

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

IF you use PM's you will miss out on a lot of good advice from others,

 

no-one is the oracle on these matters nor are we infallible.

 

Public postings also help others in the same boat.

 

If everything was private you wouldnt have found this forum in the first place.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

1 Date of the infringement 6.11.2017

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 15.11.2017

 

3 Date received 18.11.2017

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [y/n?] no

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? yes

one image just showing the rear passenger side view

none on rear end or driver side view

no clear views of car outsde box

 

i have phoned at least twelve times as stated on letter to get more images online

spoke to a lady once but she was no help

but said there were four images showing on her computer,

but there is no way of seeing them

 

6 Have you appealed? {y/n?] post up your appeal]

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up NO NOT YET

 

7 Who is the parking company? ES PARKING ENFORCEMENT LTD COMPLAINTS TO THE IPC

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] CENTRAL READS SECURE CAR PARK BLACKPOOL FY14DG

 

Sorry question 6 no to both

 

Thanks dx100uk

 

Sorry i have no pictures myself of the car in box or any signage as i had no notice on windscreen on departure

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

hey well done!!

 

now little tip NEVER EVER PHONE THEM!!

 

can you get the NTK posted up please


PLEASE DONT USE REPLY WITH QUOTE IF THE LAST POST IS THE ONE YOU ARE REPLYING TOO.

MAKES A THREAD TWICE AS LONG TO SCROLL THROUGH!

 

WE CAN'T GIVE ADVICE BY PM - IF YOU SEND ME A LINK TO YOUR THREAD - I WILL BE HAPPY TO OFFER HELP THERE

1. Single Premium PPI Q&A Read Here

2. Reclaim mis-sold PPI Read Here

3. Reclaim Bank Account, Loan & Credit Card Charges Read Here

4. The CAG Interest Tutorial Read Here

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

thread tidied

 

dx


PLEASE DONT USE REPLY WITH QUOTE IF THE LAST POST IS THE ONE YOU ARE REPLYING TOO.

MAKES A THREAD TWICE AS LONG TO SCROLL THROUGH!

 

WE CAN'T GIVE ADVICE BY PM - IF YOU SEND ME A LINK TO YOUR THREAD - I WILL BE HAPPY TO OFFER HELP THERE

1. Single Premium PPI Q&A Read Here

2. Reclaim mis-sold PPI Read Here

3. Reclaim Bank Account, Loan & Credit Card Charges Read Here

4. The CAG Interest Tutorial Read Here

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

we need to see the signage at the car park.

That will be any signs at the entrance to the land from the public highway, and signs within the car park itself that are different to the first one and picture of any parking meter or the like.

 

An idea of the layout of the car park and where you were parked in relation to any of the signs would be very helpful as well.

 

As you have phoned them 12 times we can assume that it is a reasonable assumption that the driver and keeper are the same.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

thanks ericsbrother

 

i had taken no pictures of signage or car park as i didnt know i would receive this cpn

 

i have four images taken by the enforcement company ,

one of which shows one sign,

you can obtain these by going on their site

 

the signage in the car park i would say from memory is very clear and numerous,

the three images of my car in the bay are not really showing the car outside the bay and are terrible.

as perhaps you are aware you can go on google maps and view car park ,

 

you really need to view the images supplied by es enforcement,

but its getting them to this forum for you to view

 

today is the last day to pay the lower price of £60

but i intend to go to court if i have to ,,

i am the driver and the keeper

 

how can i cancel this file with dates on

 

ive just tagged google search for the car park and it shows a different car park to the one i was parked in

the car park in question is off a back street behind the main road car park,

there is three all in the same area managed by es enforcement

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

you need to go take pictures and do a layout map


PLEASE DONT USE REPLY WITH QUOTE IF THE LAST POST IS THE ONE YOU ARE REPLYING TOO.

MAKES A THREAD TWICE AS LONG TO SCROLL THROUGH!

 

WE CAN'T GIVE ADVICE BY PM - IF YOU SEND ME A LINK TO YOUR THREAD - I WILL BE HAPPY TO OFFER HELP THERE

1. Single Premium PPI Q&A Read Here

2. Reclaim mis-sold PPI Read Here

3. Reclaim Bank Account, Loan & Credit Card Charges Read Here

4. The CAG Interest Tutorial Read Here

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

OK but from now on you dont go on their website or any other similar website,

they use analytical tools to see who is visiting

and that may identify you and cause problems should you be using a no keeper liability argument.

 

They already stretch their arguments over driver and keeper so you dont want to be having to defend what you look at online.

 

I am not interested in what you recall from memory,

we need hard evidence because if this goes further than silly letters it will forarm you and hopefully we will be able to advise you of what to say to avoid going to court.

 

If you get another ticket/NTK dont even say you are the driver to us,

you use the third person when talking about events so things like

" the driver at the time dd not see any signs" rather than I/my husband/brother/ or we.

 

Unfortunately it all becomes a bit of a game of chess sometimes so we want them to make th wrong moves.

Edited by dx100uk

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

cost?

explain?


PLEASE DONT USE REPLY WITH QUOTE IF THE LAST POST IS THE ONE YOU ARE REPLYING TOO.

MAKES A THREAD TWICE AS LONG TO SCROLL THROUGH!

 

WE CAN'T GIVE ADVICE BY PM - IF YOU SEND ME A LINK TO YOUR THREAD - I WILL BE HAPPY TO OFFER HELP THERE

1. Single Premium PPI Q&A Read Here

2. Reclaim mis-sold PPI Read Here

3. Reclaim Bank Account, Loan & Credit Card Charges Read Here

4. The CAG Interest Tutorial Read Here

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

got someone that lives nearby there?

 

dx


PLEASE DONT USE REPLY WITH QUOTE IF THE LAST POST IS THE ONE YOU ARE REPLYING TOO.

MAKES A THREAD TWICE AS LONG TO SCROLL THROUGH!

 

WE CAN'T GIVE ADVICE BY PM - IF YOU SEND ME A LINK TO YOUR THREAD - I WILL BE HAPPY TO OFFER HELP THERE

1. Single Premium PPI Q&A Read Here

2. Reclaim mis-sold PPI Read Here

3. Reclaim Bank Account, Loan & Credit Card Charges Read Here

4. The CAG Interest Tutorial Read Here

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

pictures in above post


PLEASE DONT USE REPLY WITH QUOTE IF THE LAST POST IS THE ONE YOU ARE REPLYING TOO.

MAKES A THREAD TWICE AS LONG TO SCROLL THROUGH!

 

WE CAN'T GIVE ADVICE BY PM - IF YOU SEND ME A LINK TO YOUR THREAD - I WILL BE HAPPY TO OFFER HELP THERE

1. Single Premium PPI Q&A Read Here

2. Reclaim mis-sold PPI Read Here

3. Reclaim Bank Account, Loan & Credit Card Charges Read Here

4. The CAG Interest Tutorial Read Here

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Please fill in your quit date here

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    No registered users viewing this page.


  • Have we helped you ...?




  • Tweets

  • Our picks

    • This is a bit of a lengthy one but I’ll summerise best as possible.
       
      THIS IS HOW THE PHONECALL WENT 
       
      I was contacted by future comms by phone, they stated that they could beat any phone contract I have , (I am a limited company but just myself that needs a business phone and I am the only worker) 
      I told future comms my deal, £110 per month with a phone and a virtual landline, they confirmed that they could beat that, £90 per month with a phone , virtual landline  they also confirmed they would pay Vodafone (previous provider) the termination fee. As I am in business, naturally I was open to making a deal. So we proceeded. 
      Future comms then revealed that the contract would be with PLAN.COM and the airtime would be provided by 02, I instantly told them that this would break the deal as I have poor 02 signal in the house where I live as my partner is on 02 and constantly complaining about bad signal
      the salesman assured me he would send a signal booster box out with the phone so I would have perfect signal.
      so far so good.....
      i then explained this is the only mobile phone I use for business and pleasure, so therefore I didn’t want any disconnection time in the slightest between the switchover from Vodafone to 02
      the salesman then confirmed that the existing phone would only be disconnected once the new phone was switched on.
      so far so good....
      • 14 replies
    • I was talked into signing up with Future Comms (future-comms.co.uk) who cold-called me to change my mobile contract to them, via 02, rather than EE. I have a small business (only me!) and it's a business contract. True, the 4G network is better for my area. This company seemed to be a marketing set-up for various telecoms companies, so I assumed anything I signed would be with 02 and didn't think it might be a problem.
       
      They sent an email whilst I was on the phone to set up the direct debit mandate with my bank which I signed electronically. That was the first, of many, problems I found. Apparently THAT was my contract, binding me to 3 years and no 'cooling off' period, because I was a 'business' (meaning any consumer rights did not apply). When I subsequently asked in writing for a copy of my contract, that is what they sent - when I argued it was a DD mandate they insisted it was my contract!
       
      2 days later they asked for my phone details to get it unlocked which I sent. 10 days later, EE closed my account, so I changed the SIM card to 02 that had come a few days before. No network! They had done nothing about unlocking it. Fortunately I was lucky with EE who managed to give me the right codes, rather than the usual 10 days to go through Samsung.
       
      By this time I was suspicious of their set-up and wanted to cancel. As I said earlier, I found myself trapped into a 3 year contract with no 14 day cooling off period (they don't offer that). Promises to deal with my complaints never happened, promised return calls neither....and on and on.
       
      Ofcom's rules apply to consumers and small businesses (under 10 employees), yet this shower don't acknowledge that. They just repeat and repeat that I am a business so it doesn't apply. To cancel the contract I have to pay the full 3 year's fees!!
       
      I would like to know if others have had similar experiences? Or does anyone know how I can maybe declare the 'contract' unenforceable? I have never before been locked into something without a clear written contract, with t&c's! And, yes, I have asked, and yes, I have been ignored.
      • 84 replies
    • Future comms!. Read more at https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/415706-future-comms/
      • 10 replies
    • A shocking story of domestic and economic abuse compounded by @BarclaysUKHelp ‏ bank complicity – coming soon @A_Gentle_Woman. Read more at https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/415737-a-shocking-story-of-domestic-and-economic-abuse-compounded-by-barclaysukhelp-%E2%80%8F-bank-complicity-%E2%80%93-coming-soon-a_gentle_woman/
      • 0 replies
×
×
  • Create New...