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    • Hi I received a Parking Charge letter to keeper on Monday 15/04/24, the 17th day after the alleged incident. My understanding is that this is outside the window for notifying. The issue date was 08/04/2024 which should have been in good time for it to have arrived within the notice period but in fact it actually arrived at lunchtime on the 15th. Do I have to prove when it arrived  (and if so how can I do that?) or is the onus on them to prove it was delivered in time? All I can find is that delivery is assumed to be on the second working day after issue which would have been Weds 10//04/24 but it was actually delivered 5 days later than that (thank you Royal Mail!). My husband was present when it arrived - is a family member witness considered sufficient proof? 1 Date of the infringement  arr 28/03/24 21:00, dep 29/03/24 01.27 2 Date on the NTK  08/04/2024 (Date of Issue) 3 Date received Monday 15/04/24 4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012?  Yes 5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes 6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] No    Have you had a response?  n/a 7 Who is the parking company? GroupNexus 8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Petrol Station Roadchef Tibshelf South DE55 5T 'operating in accordance with the BPA's Code of Practice'  
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    • Huh? This is nothing about paying just for what I use - I currently prefer the averaged monthly payment - else i wouldn't be in credit month after month - which I am comfortable with - else I wold simply request a part refund - which I  would have done if they hadn't reduced my monthly dd after the complaint I raised (handled slowly and rather badly) highlighted the errors in their systems (one of which they do seem to have fixed) Are you not aware DD is always potentially variable? ah well, look it up - but my deal is a supposed to average the payments over a year, and i dont expect them to change payments (up or down) without my informed agreement ESPECIALLY when I'm in credit over winter.   You are happy with your smart meter - jolly for you I dont want one, dont have to have one  - so wont   I have a box that tells me my electricity usage - was free donkeys years ago and shows me everything I need to know just like a smart meter but doesnt need a smart meter,  and i can manually set my charges - so as a side effect - would show me if the charges from the supplier were mismatched. Doesn't tell me if the meters actually calibrated correctly - but neither does your smart meter. That all relies on a label and the competence of the testers - and the competence of any remote fiddling with the settings. You seem happy with that - thats fine. I'm not.    
    • Evening all,   So today, I was sent an updated offer that includes the £12.60 I spent on letters, but they have declined to add the interest at £7.40. They have stating 'We acknowledge your request to claim interest to date, however, this would be at the discretion of a trial judge if the claim did proceed to a trial hearing.' I think I am content with this outcome, and pushing this to a trial for a total interest of £15.30 throughout the claim does not make sense to me.   What are people's thoughts? I am sure our courts have better things to concentrate on?
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I have had a conversation with a friend who who is a CORGI registered gas installer. Under their regulations when a new gas appliance is fitted, the installer has to notify CORGI. This is done using an online form, paying for the service by debit/credit card.

 

When this is done, the information is stored in an electronic database and an automated letter is sent to the customer.

 

The cost - a staggering £2.50

The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.

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I have had a conversation with a friend who who is a CORGI registered gas installer. Under their regulations when a new gas appliance is fitted, the installer has to notify CORGI. This is done using an online form, paying for the service by debit/credit card.

 

When this is done, the information is stored in an electronic database and an automated letter is sent to the customer.

 

The cost - a staggering £2.50

The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.

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I have had a conversation with a friend who who is a CORGI registered gas installer. Under their regulations when a new gas appliance is fitted, the installer has to notify CORGI. This is done using an online form, paying for the service by debit/credit card.

 

When this is done, the information is stored in an electronic database and an automated letter is sent to the customer.

 

The cost - a staggering £2.50

Tell him to come here and we'll get it back for him - grrr. :twisted:

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I have had a conversation with a friend who who is a CORGI registered gas installer. Under their regulations when a new gas appliance is fitted, the installer has to notify CORGI. This is done using an online form, paying for the service by debit/credit card.

 

When this is done, the information is stored in an electronic database and an automated letter is sent to the customer.

 

The cost - a staggering £2.50

Tell him to come here and we'll get it back for him - grrr. :twisted:

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Below are extracts from CORGI website showing the price of an analogous electronic data management and letter despatching process to the banks:

 

Work Notification has arrived

Work notification is now a requirement of CORGI Registration. It has been introduced by CORGI to help Registered Installers comply with Government led changes and to increase safety standards with gas work. Under the Government changes, it is now a requirement in England and Wales for all new gas installations and replacements in domestic dwellings to be notified to the Local Building Control (LBC) to ensure they meet building regulations.

This requirement is placed upon the home owner and they have two ways to achieve this. Firstly, they can arrange for a local building control officer to visit the appliance to confirm it meets the regulations. Research indicates the fee levied for this service is typically in the region of £300 but is dependant upon the borough. Secondly, the home owner can contract a CORGI registered installer who can self certificate their work and remove the need for the direct involvement of a building control officer.

Work Notification has been introduced to allow CORGI Registered Installers to meet this requirement by notifying CORGI at a much lower cost. Once work has been notified, CORGI will notify the LBC and also issue a certificate to the homeowner. This certificate will be used to form part of the Home Information Pack which will be a legal requirement when selling houses from January 2007.

To minimise the impact of notification upon businesses, notification to CORGI will be a paperless process. Notification can be made to CORGI either online at http://www.corgi-notify.com, which will cost £2.50 or over the phone by calling 0870 8888 777, which will cost £4.50.

Installers will be able to notify CORGI of an installation over the phone between 8am and 8pm Monday to Friday, or 24 hours a day, seven days a week online. An average call should take approximately three minutes.

Notifications need to be made for each address where work is undertaken and relates to the property. Installers will be able to notify up to six different activities per notification and can pay by direct debit, or use a credit or debit card. Installers will have 10 working days following an installation or exchange to notify CORGI. Click here to download a notification checklist.

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This is exactly my view. I intend to use it as evidence if my case comes to court

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The more I think about this, the better it gets.

 

CORGI is a non profit making organisation. They had to recover costs of setting up this quickly but charge is still only £2.50. The Banks have had 20+ years for their system.

 

If anyone does it by phone - i.e. manual intervention - the extra cost is £2.

 

CORGI also, apart from recording in a database, notify the local council and the household. These are more computor transactions than the banks perform.

 

I do believe that Steven shouls look this.

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been looking for something about this topic, couldn't find or acces corgi stuff but did find this link, q and a about registration

 

http://www.atmos.uk.com/core_files/document(43).pdf

 

not sure if anyone has anything else about this that could be produced in court.

 

q7 and q12 on list of questions are about the above

don't knock it 'till you've tried it! :)

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