Council threat 1k fine for no information

[goingstraight]

Hello

Got a letter today asking who is in my household they need the information.

It’s not a vote registration but so they “know” whom is eligible.

 

If I don’t provide it they say I’ll be fined 1k.

I don’t want to be part of the democratic process and this to me is part of it.

 

Is there a law that says I must provide this information?

 

As it only says it’s a legal not lawful requirement?

Thanks

[sgtbush]

Yes you do

The council have the legal powers to request details of the residents in the property so that they can make the determination regarding liability - Regs 3 & 4 of the council tax (administration & enforcement) regs 1992.

 

If you dont want to be a part of a democratic process, move.

Try north Korea and see how long It takes you to come back!!!!

[unclebulgaria67]

Hello

Got a letter today asking who is in my household they need the information. It’s not a vote registration but so they “know” whom is eligible. If I don’t provide it they say I’ll be fined 1k. I don’t want to be part of the democratic process and this to me is part of it. Is there a law that says I must provide this information? As it only says it’s a legal not lawful requirement?

Thanks

 

I think you will find that you can be fined for not completing the form confirming who is resident at the address.

 

It is the same with the census held every 10 years, where if you don't complete it you can be fined.

 

They even send someone around to your door, if you don't complete it, by the date given for responses.

 

It is so councils can plan services in their area and not to catch you out.

They can only use the information for certain purposes under the Data Protection Act.

 

On the original form sent to you, there was a full leaflet explaining how the data was going to be used.

[goingstraight]

Yes you do

The council have the legal powers to request details of the residents in the property so that they can make the determination regarding liability - Regs 3 & 4 of the council tax (administration & enforcement) regs 1992.

 

If you dont want to be a part of a democratic process, move.

Try north Korea and see how long It takes you to come back!!!!

Thanks for that. Seeing as you seem so sure maybe you don’t mind linking me your source of information eg statute or law which basically says I have to give them the information they want? Genuinely want to see it in black and white.

Many thanks.

[unclebulgaria67]

They make it as confusing as possible, so even official documents don't state the law that backs up the £1000 fine issue.

 

From what i understand they use this linked legislation to apply an £80 civil penalty first.

 

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2013/6/schedule/3/enacted

 

If you then did not pay the civil penalty amount to Magistrates, you would be summoned to court and presumably under some Magistrates law ( statutory instrument passed by parliament) you could be fined up to £1000. If you totally refused to accept Magistrates decisions, then ultimately you could be sent to Prison, but that relates to contempt for the court and not the original issue.

[Consumer dude]

Being part of the democratic process has its advantages, it allows the individual to hold the local authority to account as well.

[Ethel Street]

Electoral Registration and Administration Act 2013 section 4 and The Representation of the People (England and Wales) (Description of Electoral Registers and Amendment) Regulations 2013 regulation 22 are what you are looking for.

[SuperVillain]

And, registering your details doesn't force you to be part of the democratic process.

 

You're still free to not vote.

[goingstraight]

Electoral Registration and Administration Act 2013 section 4 and The Representation of the People (England and Wales) (Description of Electoral Registers and Amendment) Regulations 2013 regulation 22 are what you are looking for.

 

Many thanks

[ss002d6252]

In respect of council tax ,

 

The council tax penalty under regs 3 & 4 of A&E regs isn't one that is dealt with by the courts - the appeal process for it is via the valuation tribunal once the council have issued the penalty. This penalty is £70 then £280. http://lgfa92.co.uk/penalty-for-not-providing-council-tax/

 

If the notice that was issued was under regulation 36 - that is post liability order - then the court will deal with any fine for not providing/providing false information. This is £500 / £1000.