Section 21 runs out 19-09-17

[Leakie]

Hi all thanks in advance

 

The land lord is always asking for rent in advance,

 

Payment date is the 12th of each month ,

 

I have been paying as and when before the due date,

but lately the ll is hassling me

example

this month I paid £375 two weeks ago,

get a call last night can you pay some more,

 

the problem is I fear they will end the tenancy if I do not,

 

£400 due on Monday,

 

It seems it is the LL wife's spending money,

 

where do I stand?

 

Leakie

[mariner51]

Rent is due in cleared funds, in full, on due date.

Ask LL for rent statement.

[Leakie]

I am up to date,

 

I have paid another £300 today, just to keep her happy,

 

So I am £675 in credit with her and will pay the last £100 on the due date.

 

I just feel I have to pay her in advanced or she will ask us to move,

in the past I have paid the full amount 2 weeks before it is due.

just to help her out.but it is getting a bit much now!

[king12345]

Tell her you're struggling too and you can't pay in advance.

If you keep paying when she wants, she will ask more and more and at first opportunity will put rent up.

[Leakie]

She already know that,

I receive HB so she knows I have money once every 2 weeks.

 

Think I will have to take the plunge and just tell to wait , and keeps my fingers cross there will be no come back.

 

No sure if there is any way I can protect myself.

[Bazooka Boo]

Report her to your LA if they're paying you HB, any chance you can get them to pay her direct, so it cuts you out of the loop, there isn't a chance in hell she'll demand the LA pay her early!

[mariner51]

HB is paid 2 weeks in arrears to claimant (4 weeks if paid direct to LL) after initial date of claim, so T will always have some rent owing if they rely on HB payment alone.

OP please state -

when rent is due

when HB is paid

have you have funds avail to cover the HB 2 wk gap?

[Leakie]

I have never been behind on the rent or I would have been out,

 

I had to make up the rent whilst the HB was processed.(Borrowed from my parents)

 

As soon as the LL knew I had HB she wanted to up the rent to £900.00

 

So I told them I would have to leave, they then agreed to keep it at £775.00

 

As LL knows I am paid every 2 weeks she wants it up front and I have to pay the difference on the rent due day.

 

as you can appreciate there would be 26 payments so I always have to make up the shortfall,

and twice a year it catches up as the HB payment arrives just before the rent is due,

 

My next HB payment will be on Wednesday 14th June.

Rent due day 11th of the month.

 

Had a call last night asking for money before the weekend at 9pm.

[Bazooka Boo]

IMO this is illegal, report the LL to the council.

 

It's unfortunate that you have fallen at the first hurdle and paid her money when it wasn't due.

 

Regain control, and tell her that your rent isn't due until dd/mm/yyyy and she won't be paid until then.

 

If she bleats, then demand she refers to the tenancy agreement which states what date/day the rent falls on, also she has to change the tenancy agreement to reflect the change in rent payments, if she wishes that she can demand rent on any day she is short of cash.

 

REPORT this clown to the LA....you are being royally mugged off!

[Leakie]

Thank you BB

just do not want it to get nasty ,

 

Been through hard times lately wife left 3.1/2 years ago and I have the 3 children so finanical part not good,

and would struggle getting a new property to rent

so do not want to lose this one until back on my feet.

 

Thanks for the advise

[mariner51]

see#2

 

 

If AST states rent is payable pcm there are 12 payments pa, 4 -weekly = 13, weekly = 52.

 

 

There is no legal provision for fortnightly payments, other than weekly (same day each week).

[Bazooka Boo]

https://www.gov.uk/private-renting/complaints

[Leakie]

Thanks BB much appreciated

I will have a read in the morning.

 

Leakie

[Leakie]

Hi all I have been given notice to my my private rented house,

I have been to see the housing officer to day and he thinks he may have noticed a mistake by the LL in the notice.

 

Date of notiforcation July 20th date to leave 19th September

can some one clarify if this the correct ammount of notice please

there are other issues as I have no Energy performance certificate

 

 

 

Leakie

[ericsbrother]

2 months is normal. What section of HA is NTQ under?

[mariner51]

LLs cannot serve NTQ, only s8 or s21.

LL s21 is min 2 cal months Notice.

It is poss LL has miscalculated expiry date by 1 day or has not provided requisite info.

[Leakie]

Yes section 21 was issued

It was just something the council Housing officer brought up,

(guess he was looking for a reason to say it was not compliant with the S21 so it would be invalid )

that it may not comply as it is a day short.

He also asked for energy performance certificate which is also needed to comply

this is something I have not seen. The gas saftey certificate is being done today,

 

leakie

[stu007]

Hi

 

1. What date did you start your tenancy agreement and how long was it for?

2. When the original tenancy ended did you sign a new agreement or did the original agreement roll over (periodic)?

[Leakie]

Hi stu007

 

Started October 2013 1 year

No new contract signed

Started with letting agency then to the landlord direct

Landlord wanted long term tennant,

[Leakie]

Hi all need some more advise so I do not get fleeced by my current Landlord,

I have since found another property, My rent due date is the 11th of each month.

I can if all goes well move in on the 1st of September, so this will be, 10 days short of the calender month,

which I assume I will take a hit on.

1-If I waited until the 19th would I be expected to pay for the full rent (11th Sept to 10 Oct ) giving them 3 weeks rent for nothing?

I have been told that any notice should be given on the rent due day (section 21)

 

2- Do I need to give an certain period of notice as the section 21 has been issued.

What I am tring to avoid is being charge 2 months rent,

 

Hope this makes sense

 

Leakie

[Steve__M]

You should be able to give 1 month's notice that you will leave on 10th September.

 

If your landlord wants the house back, they may be prepared to agree an earlier date - get it in writing if they do.

 

Landlords are required to give 2 months' notice ending on a rent day so it does indeed sound like the Section 21 notice is incorrect.

 

However, check your contract to make sure that you have got the rent day right. Also, some contracts insist that tenant also has to give 2 months' notice even after the end of the fixed period. Even if such a term is unenforceable you may need to argue.

[Leakie]

Hi all

I was given a section 21 that runs out tomorrow,

unfortunately due to my circumstances I have been unable to find affordable accommodations

I am unable to provide a guarantor, but have offered 6 months rent up front and deposit,

 

I am a single parent with 3 children,

just wanted to find out the do's and dont's

 

I know I do not need to leave as I have not found anywhere else.

until the LL goes to court.

 

The council have been very unhelpful.

 

just want to confirm my rights

I do not want to fall out with the landlord, but feel this will happen.

 

I have paid up until tomorrow and have stated that i will pay for the next 2 weeks,

and hopefully move by then.

 

or should I have paid the full months rent and tried to claim it back as if I had moved out it would have only been 8 days

do not agree with paying more than I owe.

 

any advise would be appreciated

 

 

Leakie

[dx100uk]

3 threads merged for history

 

 

dx

[mariner51]

s21 may be invalid but your of val NTQ must expire at end of end of next rel rental period.

LL could claim 2x daily rent as mensne profit for any legit 'overstay.+ cost of lawful eviction.

Fewer PRS LLs now accept HB claimants as Ts.

[Leakie]

Hi Mariner51

 

Are you saying that the NTQ should go from the start of the monthly rental period

 

I pay on the 11th of each month so the NTQ should have been the same (2months from the 11th)

 

I sent them a letter stating that I have not found a place as yet, The one I thought I had secured they decided to sell.

 

I have paid rent up until today, and have stated that I will pay another 2 weeks as of tomorrow, and hopefully move out before.

 

Just does not seem right paying a full months rental for 9 days,