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We had some new neighbours move in about 3 months ago. At least 3 times per week they're banging, drilling, etc with power tools. They are fair to start and stop within working hours except once (so far) when the neighbour's Dad was making a fence in the back garden on a Sunday. I asked them to keep the noise down, they looked at me like a wan?@r and said "It's finished now anyway".

 

They have parties once a fortnight where they have friends around for a drink and loud talking in the back garden until 11pm when they go indoors. To be fair it's not like I hear much when I'm in my lounge but when I go into the kitchen the noise is disturbing. I am often awoken around 1am after these parties by them slamming doors.

 

I've complained to them a total of three times, that one time to the neighbour's Dad on a Sunday, and twice to the neighbour. Each time I've felt like I'm the bad guy, I guess after all they are working on their house and the parties could be a lot worse.

 

Yesterday the neighbour's Dad came round and told me they'll be having a party that night and tonight (Friday night and Saturday night) and that it would end at 11pm. I thought fair enough until he said he'd told me this because he "Wont have my daughter intimidated". Intimidated? "By you going around complaining about the noise". I said "There are laws about noise". Funny enough, the 2 times I've knocked and complained it's been the neighbour's chap come to the door, not her.

I think I have been fair, it's not like I went around there shouting about it, the times I've complained I've kept it pretty laid back so I don't see any intimidation, on my part at least.

 

So now I'm thinking maybe the Dad thinks he's the hard man and he's basically telling me not to complain about the noise.

 

Who's the d?ck here? Me for being a Victor Meldrew??

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We had some new neighbours move in about 3 months ago. At least 3 times per week they're banging, drilling, etc with power tools. They are fair to start and stop within working hours except once (so far) when the neighbour's Dad was making a fence in the back garden on a Sunday. I asked them to keep the noise down, they looked at me like a wan?@r and said "It's finished now anyway".

 

They have parties once a fortnight where they have friends around for a drink and loud talking in the back garden until 11pm when they go indoors. To be fair it's not like I hear much when I'm in my lounge but when I go into the kitchen the noise is disturbing. I am often awoken around 1am after these parties by them slamming doors.

 

I've complained to them a total of three times, that one time to the neighbour's Dad on a Sunday, and twice to the neighbour. Each time I've felt like I'm the bad guy, I guess after all they are working on their house and the parties could be a lot worse.

 

Yesterday the neighbour's Dad came round and told me they'll be having a party that night and tonight (Friday night and Saturday night) and that it would end at 11pm. I thought fair enough until he said he'd told me this because he "Wont have my daughter intimidated". Intimidated? "By you going around complaining about the noise". I said "There are laws about noise".

I think I have been fair, it's not like I went around there shouting about it, the times I've complained I've kept it pretty laid back so I don't see any intimidation, on my part at least.

 

So now I'm thinking maybe the Dad thinks he's the hard man and he's basically telling me not to complain about the noise.

 

Who's the d?ck here? Me for being a Victor Meldrew??

 

What level / timing of noise is "reasonable"?.

 

DIY on a new (at least to them) property? Probably.

On a Sunday (daytime)? probably.

 

Noise from their garden that doesn't disturb you in your lounge, but can affect you in your kitchen..... probably reasonable.

Until 11 pm (and then they move indoors), probably reasonable.....

 

Awoken at 1 am for slamming doors ... pretty unreasonable by their guests......

 

Decide what is reasonable, and only complain about unreasonable noise. Make the complaint about why the noise (level / timing) is unreasonable.

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Do you look intimidating, would you say? I'm wondering if you want to deal with this yourself or are looking for someone else to intervene. Are both houses privately owned, incredible?

 

HB


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If you wanted to avoid any chance of a confrontation or any allegation of being intimidating, a polite note (keep a copy) through the letter box might help.


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Make the complaint about why the noise (level / timing) is unreasonable.

 

Yeah, and how do I complain without being accused of intimidation?

 

By focusing on why the complaint is about unreasonable noise ...........

 

If you wanted to avoid any chance of a confrontation or any allegation of being intimidating, a polite note (keep a copy) through the letter box might help.

 

Doing so by (polite letter) is good advice too, as is keeping a copy (so that others can judge for themselves if it is intimidating, if they choose to follow that path ......)

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Good thing you don't live in our neighbourhood.

Kids screaming all day long, DIY taken to the next level and a south American family having parties every weekend until 2/3am.

You'll get used to it.

From what you described, apart from the 1am door slamming, there's nothing really out of the ordinary.

When we were young and had small children we were probably making more noise than our neighbours, now that we are older we tempt to become less resistant to noise, but that's life.

Unless they start drilling and partying every night, I don't think there's much you could do about the occasional door slamming.

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A polite note would do no more than I've already done. They are clearly selfish people. They had parties Friday night and Saturday night; this weekend is bank holiday so I expect all three weekend nights this time.

 

I wouldn't say I am intimidating, I'm 5'11", 14 stone so I'm average. When I did knock and complain I never saw the daughter, just the guy. I talked to him about the noise, I may have seemed a little ****ed off but I was not threatening, indeed, after I'd talked about the noise I asked him about the kitten he had in his arms.

I could invite my friends around for a party in our back garden, some of them are very intimidating. But I just want a peaceful life, bit of quiet, I don't pay rent to live next door to a night club.

 

As for "do you want someone to intervene", I don't know what you mean?

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A polite note would do no more than I've already done. They are clearly selfish people. They had parties Friday night and Saturday night; this weekend is bank holiday so I expect all three weekend nights this time.

 

I wouldn't say I am intimidating, I'm 5'11", 14 stone so I'm average. When I did knock and complain I never saw the daughter, just the guy. I talked to him about the noise, I may have seemed a little ****ed off but I was not threatening, indeed, after I'd talked about the noise I asked him about the kitten he had in his arms.

I could invite my friends around for a party in our back garden, some of them are very intimidating. But I just want a peaceful life, bit of quiet, I don't pay rent to live next door to a night club.

 

As for "do you want someone to intervene", I don't know what you mean?

 

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I'm wondering if you want to deal with this yourself or are looking for someone else to intervene. Are both houses privately owned, incredible?

HB

 

I suspect HB was looking for if you wanted to resolve this informally, or on a more formal basis involving an agency such as the police, the council's (anti!) anti-social behaviour unit, or (if both houses were e.g. Housing Association houses where the tenancy usually had a term regarding causing disturbance) the Housing Association.

 

Knowing HB's usual posting style I doubt she was suggesting "snipers in the bushes, with orders to open fire at 23.01 if the enemy doesn't retreat indoors at 23.00"

 

Involving (an official) third party will need you to re-focus on the reasonable vs. unreasonable noise aspect, and collect evidence of unreasonable noise. Complaints from you about noise that is reasonable will just make you look daft, and risk the complaint being dismissed.

 

You've already decided not to try the 'polite letter' approach? you are talking about "getting your very intimidating friends" around?

Expect the police to become involved as things escalate, but I don't think the neighbours will be the focus of the investigation.....

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