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whats all this got to do with Parking Eye please?

that doesn't fit with marstons bailiffs and this issue..

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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whats all this got to do with Parking Eye please?

that doesn't fit with marstons bailiffs and this issue..

 

The reference to Parking Eye was because it was a letter from that company that led to Seanmanarts's son first making contact with DVLA (after he sold the vehicle).

 

Reading back on the thread, I think after that particular incident, replacement forms should have been submitted to DVLA to amend the 'keeper' details.

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I am assuming from your post that the vehicle was not scrapped and instead, was either sold on or used by others connected with the garage. In many cases such as this, DVLA will usually agree to amend their records to remove your son as being vehicle keeper if proof can be given that road fund licence and insurance were cancelled around the time of the disposal.

 

This is what I dont understand, Ive had the same issues with DVLA, but luckily I had proof of posting so could show that I had sent off my part of the form.

They amended the details but after I had to appeal it twice.

They do lose documents and what can you do? mistakes happen but these people think you have a crystal ball and know they didnt get the documentation or the fact that you have no control over the post or even their own internal post system.

 

This is what I dont understand, Ive had the same issues with DVLA, but luckily I had proof of posting so could show that I had sent off my part of the form.

They amended the details but after I had to appeal it twice.

They do lose documents and what can you do? mistakes happen but these people think you have a crystal ball and know they didnt get the documentation or the fact that you have no control over the post or even their own internal post system.

 

The insurance was changed and proof was sent in.

 

Thank you so much for updating the forum with more background information. It helps a great deal.

 

I would suspect (but I could be wrong) that after receiving the letters from your daughter in law dated 7th and 20th March that Marston may have returned the warrant back to the court. If so, the warrant may have been reissued hence this could explain the absence of any involvement from Marston's until the weekend.

 

Can I just mention a little about 'vulnerability'. Firstly, exemption does not apply to a 'vulnerable household', instead, it is applicable to the debtor ( in this case; your son). With vulnerability, your son would need to provide evidence to outline what it is about HIS vulnerability that makes it difficult for HIM to deal with the debt.

 

 

 

Please do post back once you have spoken with Marston's.

Its my son who is disabled, they are also on benefits. They are also other issues I really dont want to place in here that are a very delicate matter. Evidence was sent in on the 7th and the 20th of March.

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This is what I dont understand, Ive had the same issues with DVLA, but luckily I had proof of posting so could show that I had sent off my part of the form.

They amended the details but after I had to appeal it twice.

 

They do lose documents and what can you do? mistakes happen but these people think you have a crystal ball and know they didnt get the documentation or the fact that you have no control over the post or even their own internal post system.

 

I have had various meetings at DVLA in Swansea and they are truly a massive organisation and as such, postal items do indeed go astray.

 

What is the current position with your son's previous vehicle? Is your son still registered as the vehicle keeper?

 

Its my son who is disabled, they are also on benefits. They are also other issues I really dont want to place in here that are a very delicate matter. Evidence was sent in on the 7th and the 20th of March.

 

In mentioned in my earlier post, I suspect that the warrant may have been returned back to the court after receiving the above letters. I suspect too that in the absence of any contact from your son that court may well have re-issued the warrant.

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In mentioned in my earlier post, I suspect that the warrant may have been returned back to the court after receiving the above letters. I suspect too that in the absence of any contact from your son that court may well have re-issued the warrant.

 

There has been nothing from any courts, they dont even know what court had dealt with it. it only mentions a HMCTS Sussex. With no response form Marstons, its just gone by without another though. Other serious issues have taken priority Im afraid. not a good excuse, however its not been a good year for any of the family. :(

Things just tend to be forgotten until something like this happens. Surely Marstons would of notified them that this was the case?

 

I have had various meetings at DVLA in Swansea and they are truly a massive organisation and as such, postal items do indeed go astray.

 

What is the current position with your son's previous vehicle? Is your son still registered as the vehicle keeper?

 

Have had nothing from the DVLA, not even a reminder of tax etc so I doubt he is registered as the keeper now.

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There has been nothing from any courts, they dont even know what court had dealt with it. it only mentions a HMCTS Sussex. With no response form Marstons, its just gone by without another though. Other serious issues have taken priority Im afraid. not a good excuse, however its not been a good year for any of the family. :(

Things just tend to be forgotten until something like this happens. Surely Marstons would of notified them that this was the case?

 

HMCTS Sussex is the relevant area that would have been administering the fine. I still tend to think that the warrant had been sent back to the court following the two letters in March. That would explain the absence of any further letters or visits.

 

With regards to the vehicle, I would suggest that your son calls DVLA to make enquiries as to whether he is still showing as the registered keeper. He could also make an online enquiry with DVLA. He will need the make and model of vehicle and the vehicle registration number. The search should show whether the vehicle is currently taxed or has been scrapped.

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HMCTS Sussex is the relevant area that would have been administering the fine. I still tend to think that the warrant had been sent back to the court following the two letters in March. That would explain the absence of any further letters or visits.

 

With regards to the vehicle, I would suggest that your son calls DVLA to make enquiries as to whether he is still showing as the registered keeper. He could also make an online enquiry with DVLA. He will need the make and model of vehicle and the vehicle registration number. The search should show whether the vehicle is currently taxed or has been scrapped.

 

Ive done an online search and it hasnt been taxed or insured since may 2015, which is about the time my son sold it, however and this is confusing, its been MOT'd right up until May this year.

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Ive done an online search and it hasnt been taxed or insured since may 2015, which is about the time my son sold it, however and this is confusing, its been MOT'd right up until May this year.

 

It really is important to get in touch with DVLA to ensure that your son is not still on their records as being the keeper.

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Can you explain if your sons disabilities have an effect on him dealing with financial matters?

Disability does not necessarily mean vulnerable.

The car was untaxed and not sorn'ed so you got an automatic fine of £80.

With failure to pay it goes to court and were fined in the region of £300.

With enforcement costs it comes to around £600 with the visit. These fees are set by the court and in legislation.

 

With you saying that you got a letter in march a Stat Dec wont stand up. 21 day rule.

 

Its the sellers responsibility to inform the sale of the vehicle. You also get a letter from dvla confirming the owner is now no longer responsible.

I also think your son may of been intercepting some mail as the courts send out lots of letters before issuing a warrant.

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It really is important to get in touch with DVLA to ensure that your son is not still on their records as being the keeper.

 

Thats his first port of call in the morning.

 

Both complaints have now gone in with regards to the bailiffs conduct. Ive dug a little in to the background of this bailiff and it doesn't look good at all. The amount of lies she has told is outrageous, I just hope she had her camera recording. I have requested a copy of it.

 

Can you explain if your sons disabilities have an effect on him dealing with financial matters?

Disability does not necessarily mean vulnerable.

The car was untaxed and not sorn'ed so you got an automatic fine of £80.

With failure to pay it goes to court and were fined in the region of £300.

With enforcement costs it comes to around £600 with the visit. These fees are set by the court and in legislation.

 

With you saying that you got a letter in march a Stat Dec wont stand up. 21 day rule.

 

Its the sellers responsibility to inform the sale of the vehicle. You also get a letter from dvla confirming the owner is now no longer responsible.

I also think your son may of been intercepting some mail as the courts send out lots of letters before issuing a warrant.

 

first off the car was sold and the paperwork was sent off to DVLA, The first my son heard of that there was an issue with the vehicle still in his name was when a parking eye statement came through for a place over 200 miles away, we immediately contacted DVLA and told them to amend their records as he no longer had the car.

 

A few months later he received a letter from DVLA reminding him the car was not insured, again a letter was sent to state that the car was sold and the slip was sent back, they did not accept that and it went to two appeals.

 

then nothing, until marstons got in touch in february, twice in march marstons were contacted and they did not respond until yesterday.

 

im not going into detail with regards to my sons disabilities, but marstons in the past has him down as vulnerable with regards to a tv licence matter which was dealt with very swiftly.

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You won't get a copy of the recording. If the body worn camera was on, you'll will of known, on the slide own panel ( used to activate it) it is bright hello with Recording in process written.

They are predominantly used in highly emotional or confrontational circumstances.

 

In regard to the enforcement agents certificate...

Did you mention Liverpool?

More than likely then the agent is fairly local and registered at Birkenhead courts... The courts are renown to be slow to update the databases. You can request from marstons which court the agent is registered at.

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Its the sellers responsibility to inform the sale of the vehicle. You also get a letter from dvla confirming the owner is now no longer responsible.

I also think your son may of been intercepting some mail as the courts send out lots of letters before issuing a warrant.

 

Intercepting some mail, oh dear, have you actually read this whole thread or did you just pick out the odd bits and pieces. are you calling my son a liar by any chance, he is a 33 year old man not a child.

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im not going into detail with regards to my sons disabilities, but marstons in the past has him down as vulnerable with regards to a tv licence matter which was dealt with very swiftly.

 

I wasn't asking for details, just for you to ponder over.

However as you have said he has been classed before as vunrable, vunrable can mean different things.

No assests to seize can be vulnerable... At the time of no tv licence but as he had a vehicle now he may not be classed as vulnerable. Circumstances change.

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You won't get a copy of the recording. If the body worn camera was on, you'll will of known, on the slide own panel ( used to activate it) it is bright hello with Recording in process written.

They are predominantly used in highly emotional or confrontational circumstances.

 

In regard to the enforcement agents certificate...

Did you mention Liverpool?

More than likely then the agent is fairly local and registered at Birkenhead courts... The courts are renown to be slow to update the databases. You can request from marstons which court the agent is registered at.

 

She was asked if it was recording and she said yes, she became a bailiff last year. im sure it would of come through by now. The bailiff lives in Essex and always has.

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I'm not suggesting that... I'm pointing out that it may of been a possibility.

 

In regards to tv licence.

That suggests that he has lived away from your home at some stage. Is it a possibility that the car was registered at that address?

As if he lived with you he wouldn't of needed a tv licence.

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I wasn't asking for details, just for you to ponder over.

However as you have said he has been classed before as vunrable, vunrable can mean different things.

No assests to seize can be vulnerable... At the time of no tv licence but as he had a vehicle now he may not be classed as vulnerable. Circumstances change.

 

Please stop surmising its not helpful

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I'm not suggesting that... I'm pointing out that it may of been a possibility.

 

In regards to tv licence.

That suggests that he has lived away from your home at some stage. Is it a possibility that the car was registered at that address?

As if he lived with you he wouldn't of needed a tv licence.

 

he doesnt live with me at all, i deal with all his correspondence

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Sometimes the courts can take ages to update the data base.

Ask what court she is registered with and phone that court to check

 

already done, emails went out today

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So the 1st clue for your son is you got a letter from parking eye months after he sold the car.

Alarm bells should of rang that the process of informing the dvla had not been complied with.

 

Lets ask a key question.

What address is/was the car registered at? Yours or your sons?

2. Did your son fully complete the V5C with the name of the garage and the address on it?

Did he send this to dvla Swansea?

Did he get a conformation back stating heis no longer responsible for the car from the sale date?

Did he tear of the section off the V5C stating selling to dealership or garage

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So the 1st clue for your son is you got a letter from parking eye months after he sold the car.

Alarm bells should of rang that the process of informing the dvla had not been complied with.

 

Please read what has already been written. Ive said it enough times in here

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A few months later he received a letter from DVLA reminding him the car was not insured, again a letter was sent to state that the car was sold and the slip was sent back, they did not accept that and it went to two appeals.

as written above

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Your not getting where I'm going with questions

 

The car was not unregistered from your sons name as he ...

A didn't go through the correct process

Or

B didn't chase it up after not being informed by the dvla that the car was no longer his responsibility.

 

You still have not said at what address the car was registered at.

Yours or his?

Think about it.

You cpuld of gone down the route of using the interpretations act, but your not prepared to say so I cannot help you unless you state.

 

Couple of other points.

On the other case ( mother daughter)

The V5C is the registered keepers name necessarily the owner. It states that across the front in big letters.

The car may of been in the mothers name but owned by the daughter.

Bill of sale and insurance docs could of sorted that one out.

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Your not getting where I'm going with questions

 

The car was not unregistered from your sons name as he ...

A didn't go through the correct process

Or

B didn't chase it up after not being informed by the dvla that the car was no longer his responsibility.

 

You still have not said at what address the car was registered at.

Yours or his?

Think about it.

You cpuld of gone down the route of using the interpretations act, but your not prepared to say so I cannot help you unless you state.

 

Couple of other points.

On the other case ( mother daughter)

The V5C is the registered keepers name necessarily the owner. It states that across the front in big letters.

The car may of been in the mothers name but owned by the daughter.

Bill of sale and insurance docs could of sorted that one out.

 

First off, read everything that has been written.

He DID go through the correct process, he sent back ALL that was needed, dotted the I's and crossed the T's, he has bought and sold enough cars to know what he is doing. This is the first time that this has ever happened. Unfortunately the postal service is crap but joe public can do nothing about that.

Car was registered at his address. Paper work was sent to his address. Ive been in the same situation so has another member of my family. It happens.

This was over 2 years ago, a lot has happened in those two years.

 

Mother showed her bill of sale with her full name and address on there and the name of the garage it was purchased, plus the registered keepers papers. I have copies of those

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