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I would like to know the best way to proceed with a parking ticket for someone.

 

The OPC sign was not noticed on entering the parking site behind shops.

 

The area has been used by the person to visit shops for years as there was not a restriction.

 

The stay was iro up to half hour. The ticket says pay £50.

 

There were not any more signs noticed where the person parked

and you would think there should be signs clearly visible in the parking area itself if the sign entering is missed,

sharp turn in off a busy road,

you would see other signs.

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Thanks DX have now read. The ticket is new in last week so should the person wait for a notice or appeal straight away. After 28 days it's £100.

 

It's an issue of a private parking charge.

 

Appeal to be received by them within 28 days

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you need to answer the questions....


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I've just edited my previous post but I will go back and read.

 

I tried to open link to Court of appeal info re Parking Eye for interest, but not responding.

 

Right, looks like next to do is appeal.

 

Maybe there's easement on parking behind shops if you are going to the shops to do business, as the ticket person asked them if they had gone to the shops related to the car park. I will find out.

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can you please answer those question so we know all about the ticket....

 

copy the Q&A here and answer them..............:whistle:

was this a windscreen ticket

or ANPR capture she knew nowt about till a letter has come.

 

 

dx


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I've looked at Q&A you link too and these are the only questions which can be answered now.

 

1. Date of infringement. 31/8/17

 

2. Did you appeal. Not yet

 

5. Who is parking company. OPC

 

Other questions refer to NTK and it's too early for that.

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was this a windscreen ticket

or ANPR capture she knew nowt about till a letter has come.

 

WHERE is the car park.


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Windscreen ticket. Was behind shops in Harpenden.

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ok and to finish the teeth pulling to get the info the experts asked for by making the info thread

we need the post code too.


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I would have to get back with that as I don't have that info.

Out of interest, is it to check out historic probs with particular parking areas? or another reason.

 

I remember they said the reason was no valid parking permit.

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there will be history yes


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I've found out the location of the parking is different to originally thought by friend and correct post code is wd6 1DX.

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that's good

so lets continue the teeth pulling exercise

and tell us where this actually happened...

street view link...


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we need to know everything about the event and what has happened since

so date, place, what it is that they are claiming caused the friend to owe them money,

pictures of the signage at the site,

a pdf of their ticket and NTK, who the parking co is etc.

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ok and to finish the teeth pulling to get the info the experts asked for by making the info thread

we need the post code too.

 

You mentioned there maybe history so I thought you'd stopped the teeth pulling:madgrin:

when I gave you the post code however,

the parking was behind the parade of shops in an area which can be used for delivering,

which my friend was doing to the charity shop.

I'll see if Google maps behaves to get a pic.

 

The area is Borehamwood.

 

For Ericsbro I've given date previously but is 31/8/2017. Same with post code and reason. When you ask who is the parking co is that not OPC?

 

update, i've been away so catching up with friend's progress.

They appealed within 14 days before NTK so no NTK received,

to say was delivering in the delivery zone area as is marked out on the sign outside the parking area

(which is not in a place you can read before you drive in).

 

They replied with a refusal saying they considered the reason but appeal had to go to POPLA and the info to do this in their letter.

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but you havent given the full info,

what was the supposed breach,

when did your friend appeal etc.

what exaxctly the appeal was,

what were the reasons for rejection.

 

 

Google streetview doesnt show anything that is not on the public highway and often obscures signage that is on private land to keep within the law on provacy so just a postcode for a parade of shops doesnt tell us anything usful as there is no indication of whwre the signs are, how many, what the layout of the private land is, whetehr there is lightsg etc.

 

Again, when asking about date etc the screen ticket will have a time of the occurrence

9pm on a cold winters day is vastly different from 10am on a summers morning as far as visibility of signs go.

when I say everything I mean everything.

 

As for the date and parking co alrerady been given do you know how many people post up with the wrong neme or date?

There is another thread currently running here where the poster reckons he sent his appeal letter 2 days before he got the ticket

so yes, we do expect people to double check, especially when they are acting on behalf of a friend as it often becomes chinese whispers

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Hi Determindator.

 

So the thread title should be '[name of car park or shopping parade] Borehamwood' and not Harpenden? The postcode you gave, WD6, covers Borehamwood.

 

HB


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Would it be Furzehill Parade in Borehamwood? I see the Peace Hospice has a shop in that postcode.

 

HB


Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

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Thanks HB that's correct.

 

For Ericsbro the proposed breach is not displaying a valid permit to park. Appeal made within 14 days of ticket on windscreen. Reason, delivering in the designated delivery area. Their reason to refuse, not displaying a permit but if you're delivering you won't have a permit.

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I've amended the thread title, hope it helps.

 

HB


Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

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what do the signs say is and isnt permitted?

They are claiming money for either a breach of contract or as a sum due under a contract.

 

 

The signage is the contract so it must specify the term later mentioned.

If you need a valid permit to park

does the signage prohibit parking without one?

if so then it is not a contractual matter

but one of trespass

and that is nothing to do with a parking co,

just the landowner ,

who may decide to sue for damage caused to his roadway.

the value of such a claim would be zero so aint going to happen.

 

We are still having to extract tiny bits of information from you when the whole story is needed,

including all of the evidential trail and that menas signs, paperwork , EVERYTHING

 

It is often hell trying to advise people by proxy,

dads writing on behalf of children, etc

because we dont know what is being relayed back and forth between the poster and that person.

 

 

It would be better if you could get the person to read this thread and a bunch of others to see what sort of stuff we need

and then give us the information from the horses mouth in one go

otherwise little other than generic advice can be forthcoming

Edited by honeybee13
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POPLA appeal successful:-D

The operator did not provide any evidence in response to this appeal.

 

My way was the best way in the end.

 

My thoughts on this was to appeal straight away to operator and get their reply before NTK.

 

The reply from the operator is received and if they reject your appeal you have the option to appeal to POPLA.

 

You have then seen the operators reasons for rejection if that is the case and take your contestment further.

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good result for you. The parking co's often do this rather than have their lack of contracts and nefarious pratcices put under scrutiny. They can continue to try their luck rather than facing a possible class action for all the other wrongdoings they were proved to know about.

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POPLA appeal successful:-D

The operator did not provide any evidence in response to this appeal.

 

My way was the best way in the end.

 

My thoughts on this was to appeal straight away to operator and get their reply before NTK.

 

The reply from the operator is received and if they reject your appeal you have the option to appeal to POPLA.

 

You have then seen the operators reasons for rejection if that is the case and take your contestment further.

 

 

Just be careful with such an approach to appeal only as keeper ... as if appealing before the NtK don't identify the driver!

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