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Hi, firstly thanks for reading this post!!


i'm gonna try and keep this short and simple and skip why its been this late..



the car overstayed in BP petrol station Hatton cross for 11mins from 13:53 to 14:34 on 05/03/17.

I received two PCNs from ECP (double dipping?),

both identical but with different PCN numbers

(my dad did say he left and came back to buy something else).


i've been away (dad has no english to deal with this)

came back to find a Notice to Keeper from ECP,

and debt recovery letters from two different companies.



Again, both compaines have sent two identical letters but with only different reference numbers.

I've only included one copy of each as they are identical.


Here are the dates (each of these have identical letters with different reference numbers):

- 10/03 first PCNs received, "pay £60 within 14 days for reduced amount.. or full within 28days etc.."


- 30/03 Notice to keeper, "£100 payment should be made within 28 days of the date of this letter"


- 09/06 debt collector letter from DRP, "£160 reduced to £136 if paid by 23/06"


- 24/07 debt collector letter from Zenith, "£160 reduced to £99.99 if paid within 14 days"


see attahced images for more details.


A few points:


- The evidence is the number plate which is just a black rectangle with the number plate. Is this sufficient?


- DRP in their letter saying, "they're [ECP] willing to accept £136 instead of the full amount of £160", but ECP never stated £160.


- Zenith also stating, "able to pay reduced amount £99.99 within 14 days or will revert back to £160".

ECP have never stated £160 in their letters. Is this something to argue?


I've challenged many PCNs before so i had no intention to ignore..

but its come to this stage and i don't know what to do / where to start.

ECP PCN 2.png

ECP PCN 1.png

ECP Debt Col Zenith 1.png

ECP NTK 1.png

ECP Debt Col DRP 1.png

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as this is from march

i'd leave it be now



just don't ignore a claimform IF one comes

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • 4 weeks later...

dont forget, the dca's make up things as they go along because they think people dont know otherwise.

This is generally true.



Why do you think that the amount would be any more or less then the origianl contractual obligation?

Did you sign a credit agreement with DR+?

No, therefore their discount from £160 is meaningless because that was a made up amount.


How you can overstay for a total of 11 mins is somehting else you should ask yourself,

do you think that BP think that it takes zero time to fill up?

No, they are unaware these bandits are operating in this way and wouldnt be pleased.



If you want to do something then find out who is in charge of public relations for BP retail and give them a bent ear over this.

Double dipping is a well known problem



let them know that you will be telling the entire world about their incompetence (and not mantioning their gophers) by social media if they fail to put things right

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