refused voluntary redundancy -i dont want the job i want the payout

[alane29]

Hello

I was put at risk of redundancy ,

the letter said they would consider volunteers but no guarantee,

 

 

was intending to leave later in the year i volunteered .

had a one to one with the director and said i was interested ,

have worked there for over 10 years so the payout was considerable and would help with my new venture .

The request was refused.

 

 

There are 2 positions and 4 people ,

have un offically been told one of the roles is mine even though i said dont want it,

was un offically told they want me to take the job as if i dont they will be forced to give it to one of the people they want to get rid of .

have a very good relationship with the director who said if i stay until all the dust settles

he will try let me leave before the 3 months notice is up maybe 2-3 weeks early but this wont help me much .

 

The whole thing stinks tbh

why offer someone a job who has told you they're intending to leave ,

also i will have to put in my notice during the 45 day redundancy consultancy period and not sure how that would work .

 

i have not spoken to HR yet as this will cause issues but im seriously considering going to Hr .

Need some advice please asap .

 

Thanks

[BazzaS]

If you are choosing to leave rather than being forced to leave, it may prevent it being redundancy.

If they are offering you the job to avoid having to offer it to someone they don't want : it isn't redundancy for you (but might be for the unwanted individual!)

 

By all means "seriously consider going to HR". If you tell them you want to leave by choice, and it isn't a voluntary redundancy offered by (& agreeable to!) the company : you can resign and they avoid having to pay you redundancy!

[alane29]

True i guess ,i will have to come up with a plan B

[Sidewinder]

You are caught in an unfortunate position. In a fair redundancy process, it may well be that the cost of redundancy could be used to determine who stays, along with other criteria regarding your 'fit' to the alternative role

 

It sounds as though you might be 'too' good at your job and 'too' expensive to make redundant!

 

Sadly for you there is no automatic right to be made redundant voluntarily, and making your intention to leave anyway overly clear to the employer could see them saving on the cost of making you redundant by deliberately keeping you on

[sangie5952]

Hello

I was put at risk of redundancy ,the letter said they would consider volunteers but no guarantee, so as i was intending to leave later in the year i volunteered .I had a one to one with the director and said i was interested ,i have worked there for over 10 years so the payout was considerable and would help with my new venture .

 

The request was refused.There are 2 positions and 4 people , i have un offically been told one of the roles is mine even though i said dont want it, i was un offically told they want me to take the job as if i dont they will be forced to give it to one of the people they want to get rid of .i have a very good relationship with the director who said if i stay until all the dust settles he will try let me leave before the 3 months notice is up maybe 2-3 weeks early but this wont help me much .

 

The whole thing stinks tbh why offer someone a job who has told you there intending to leave ,also i will have to put in my notice during the 45 day redundancy consultancy period and not sure how that would work .

i have not spoken to HR yet as this will cause issues but im seriously considering going to Hr .

Need some advice please asap .

 

Thanks

 

Because redundancy pay isn't a leaving present. The employer wants to retain the best person for the job, and that happens, it appears, to be you. Why would they want to pay the best person for the job not to take it?

 

But as others have said, in the employers shoes I'd force you to take it, then if you refuse I get to avoid any redundancy pay for you. And if you take it then leave voluntarily I still win because I just recruit to replace you, still haven't paid you redundancy and don't have to keep the others I want to get rid of. That is exactly what they are thinking.

 

I'd avoid going to HR, because all that will do is suggest this strategy to them!

[Emmzzi]

If there is a union make sure they know you want to go; they often have views on forcing people out when there are willing volunteers But I agree that legally you have no right to a pay out

[ericsbrother]

you made the mistake of telling them you wanted to leave regardless rather than just saying you were interested in taking the golden bullet if the terms were right. You made their minds up for them and saved them the redundancy money. Their only problem is if the other person staying is also bluffing or incompetent so giving a problem when recruiting a new person for your job.