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    • hi   Thank you for your reply.   nice link . thank you very much.   I know I will get my refund. it has been offered. I have been told I am right about the situation. It does seem like this is in debate but this was clarified a long time ago.   Do you think I would be wasting my time to try and stop it happening to others?   I just would not want this happing to anyone else.   Thank you again                
    • Just ask for the refund you appear to be entitled to.  They'll either pay it or they'll explain to you why they won't.  Forget everything else.   Or you could try here:  https://www.railforums.co.uk/forums/disputes-prosecutions.152/
    • you stated :   "I would expect revenue officers are quite aware of the time of day they are manning barriers. i'd also go as far as to say they don't bother to do this in off peak times... as there would be little point, no loss of revenue to protect".     They were there when I should have had an off peak option, they did not give it me!! I asked for the lower fare. they refused!! And threatened a fine!! ( i did not know the jargon , that is true)  but "lower fare option "  should be o.k for them to understand.   When I say, to the effect, that there was a lower fare option listed on your computer before I left the station  Please can I have that as this higher fare seems far too much. Is there another option?   No.   I had full fare or a hefty fine options only.   you stated:   "your intended return was off-peak, but you didn't tell them.."   I asked for the lower fare, they refused. repeatedly. They had the option to charge the low fare but absolutely refused and threaten a fine.   I do not have to know any jargon.  I just said it was too much and there was a lower option before i departed and  why can't I have that? They said no and that I had to pay the high fare.   Which is untrue. They should have said that was o.k and gave any restrictions on the ticket!   you stated "this thread is getting boring and repetitive. "   You could help me and the many others  who may read this) who would like advice and offer suggestions of things to ask or mention with the complaint.   What would you say? How can I stop this from happening to others?   I have been told I was right by the staff at the station. So I know I am in the right.   Please can you be a bit more friendly and helpful?  Come on, lets try and do some good here.   I was hoping people might suggest some ideas.   Perhaps we can move onto the questions I should ask or things I should state regards my complaint. with time running out?  If not for me,  for other travellers, who will be going through this same ordeal if we do not help them.   kind regards.          
    • yes because 1000's of people believe a DCA is a bailiff and they are not and that penalty charges are lawful, they are not, so blindly cough up...   worth a few letters / free emails to try it on pays for the staff drinks down the pub that night with free money.   dx  
    • they have already 'outsourced' it ..........to a dca [crs - well that's harlands anyway] watchout for Zinc next.. but don't look at the bottom of the letter as you'll see its the same address again...}   forget about it go enjoy your life.    
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Nasty one in the Mail

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4702178/Nurses-pay-150-000-parking-fines.html

 

County Court judge upheld all the tickets.


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amazing

yet again the stupid mail calls them FINES

and shows a picture of a PENALTY CHARGE NOTICE!


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Was this being discussed on the wright stuff on channel 5 today?

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This whole affair is an absolute disgrace from start to finish.

 

The Hospital authority state that only a minority of people are involved. Hello!!-Over 100,000 unpaid tickets are apparently involved Not only that but the hospital staff have permits to park from the hospital which should give them primacy over Indigo's mickey mouse "contract". Plus they have fallen into Indigo's c--p that they are there to control the parking when they are actually there to line their own pockets. I understand that Indigo's remit lasts until next year when one can only hope that the contract is not renewed.

 

Indigo like many of the other rapacious parking companies know full well that many of their tickets are not worth the paper they are written on. They then have the cheek to state "The court's ruling has justified our decision to take this action" when they should know that they were damn lucky to get such a useless Judge who seemed determined to rule against every point raised against Indigo. One would hope that she is either sacked or sent for retraining.

 

A proper defence would have wiped the floor with Indigo and if the staff can get their act together and appeal the decision they should walk it.

 

This was covered by The Parking Prankster .

 

One would like to think that some of the investigative newspapers might take up cudgels for the nurses.

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Since it is a cash penalty that is being enforced by the courts, it is perhaps at least a defacto fine. Even if it is in no way 'a fine' and the Daily Mail is stupid, that doesn't help people much if they are still forced to pay it.

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Not forced as it can be appealed at a higher court. The judge is basically saying all laws pertaining to it are wrong, and all other charges/appeals in the past etc were wrong too.

 

basically it sounds like the PPC got a judge who hadnt got a clue what they were doing so the judge sided with the company as a company would never do such a thing as try and con people out of money. Especially a PPC at a hospital :lol:


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Further info on Parking Prankster appears that the defendants were going to be represented. However there seems there may have been some skullduggery afoot and their rep. decided to leave

the Court. The plot thickens. Perhaps those nice people at the top of the Judiciary are somewhat perturbed by the number of motorists flouting the Law as it is decided by the the Parking Companies and gave the Companies a helping hand. I do hope this is not the case.

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Further info on Parking Prankster appears that the defendants were going to be represented. However there seems there may have been some skullduggery afoot and their rep. decided to leave

the Court. The plot thickens. Perhaps those nice people at the top of the Judiciary are somewhat perturbed by the number of motorists flouting the Law as it is decided by the the Parking Companies and gave the Companies a helping hand. I do hope this is not the case.

Sadly I think it may well be the case, don't forget that a very favoured by government provider of services, Capita owns a PPC, Parking Eye along with bailiffs Equita, and Rross 'n Robbers (Roberts) along with TV Licensing. A win for the NHS workers might harm Capita's bottom line as well as Indigo.


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there are a few judges who believe that it is their duty to enforce judgement for anyone claiming large sums of money as a punishment to those who havent paid it.

 

 

If you read the reports that are in circulation it does appear as this is a case of this thinking with the actual law ignored and a punitive aspect applied as the case should have been sent to a higher court in the first place other than it was broken down for being a specimen claim and then hundreds of thousnads added as costs o the whole lot.

 

 

Never seen this before

 

Also, I suspect that if the appeal is successful not only will the parking co be poorer for it courtesy of those costs

someone at the hospital trust will lose their job (probably not the person who caused the trouble though)

to make it look as though their sins have been atoned.

 

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Hopefully the appeal will be successful, this perverse judgment cannot be allowed to stand.

 

It is Kafkaesque that people should lose their homes due to some misguided judge orders that health workers to pay probably spurious faulty demands, from a rapacious busted-ass PPC with the connivance of the Hospital Trust that employs the workers.


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this judge has made previous determinations that are different from the rest of the worlds view on things so the appeal should be OK, read the pranksters latest blog on the behaviour of the parking co and other parties involved.

I have said before that county courts always assume that people tell the truth but sometimes you do wonder how this can be so. A friend of mine was involved in a minor dispute over the sale of a car some years ago and sued the garage. On the day of the hearing the defendant car dealer turned up in court on crutches in a neck brace with a lady dressed as a nurse and claimed my friend had just assulted him. Despite a failure to show what hospital had treated him or any qualifications for the "nurse" being evident this was taken into account in the settlement.so even the more outrageous porkies get taken at face value

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