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    • pop up on the MCOL website detailed on the claimform. [if mcol is not working return after the w/end or the next day if week time] .  register as an individual  note the long gateway number given  then log in .  select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box. .  then using the details required from the claimform .  defend all  leave jurisdiction unticked   goto the defence filing section  file the following:     1 The Claimant's claim was issued on (insert date).  2 The Defendant contends that the Claimant's claim so issued is a claim in contract and is statute barred pursuant to the provisions of section 5 of the limitation act 1980.  . If, which is denied, the claimant contends that the Defendant is in breach of the alleged contract, in excess of 6 years have elapsed since the date on which any cause of action for breach accrued for the benefit of the Claimant. .  3 The Claimant's claim to be entitled to payment of £[insert figure from their POC]  or any other sum, or relief of any kind is denied. .. ..ends..   dx          
    • I passed on the article and link to friend. Between us we will now try get the required info to the correct location so that they (whoever in the Govt) can sort out what he is owed. I will keep you updated.  This thread may help others in similar situations. Ethel Street - very helpful research.  Thank you.  Seems like you came up trumps!
    • numerous erudio/drydens claimform threads here already - use our search top right.   your appears to be statute barred as you've never heard of erudio so would not have deferred since your last direct deferment to SLC in 2013    if you wish to bother to even send CCA/CPR that's upto you but the bottom line is to erudio you've ignored everything to date yoy might also ignore a claimform.   but ofcourse you are not!!   if the above is true   pop up on the MCOL website detailed on the claimform. [if mcol is not working return after the w/end or the next day if week time] .  register as an individual  note the long gateway number given  then log in .  select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box. .  then using the details required from the claimform .  defend all  leave jurisdiction unticked   goto the defence filing section  file the following: 1 The Claimant's claim was issued on (insert date).  2 The Defendant contends that the Claimant's claim so issued is a claim in contract and is statute barred pursuant to the provisions of section 5 of the limitation act 1980.  . If, which is denied, the claimant contends that the Defendant is in breach of the alleged contract, in excess of 6 years have elapsed since the date on which any cause of action for breach accrued for the benefit of the Claimant. .  3 The Claimant's claim to be entitled to payment of £[insert figure from their POC]  or any other sum, or relief of any kind is denied. .. ..ends..   dx      
    • Well I would want my £50 back also but hey ho if your satisfied its been resolved.....there was no way you could ever be liable anyway as your contract was with TC not RC.   Thread title updated.   Andy
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Hi I wondering if anyone could help me with a recent letter I received from CRS regarding Xercise 4 less.

 

Since cancelling my gym membership via my bank and calling the gym to cancel this is the first letter I've received.

 

My account balance is currently £207.47 with an added fee of £36 for tracing me

- bearing in mind I've lived at the same address for 6 years.

 

 

I rung them straight away to say I wouldn't be paying it as it's a ridiculous amount and that I thought my membership had been cancelled.

 

 

I asked if I could appeal so they gave me an email address to write to,

a number of emails have been sent back and forth.

One stating the gym had an incorrect address and all previous letters had been sent there.

 

 

from them trying to 'find' me my bill is now £207.47.

I've stated I won't pay this but would pay a month and a late fee as if I'd received the first letter this is what they would be asking for, at the end of each and every email they say they could negotiate with the fee.

 

 

Having gone back and forth with the company and going around in circles

I've rung again today and a lady was on the phone I told her what I'd be willing to pay she told me I could reduce the bill by £40 if I paid today,

 

 

I point blank refuse to pay for a bill that had it gone to my address in the first place wouldn't be so big.

 

I'm due to have a baby in 3 weeks time and I'm really stressed about the situation,

I cancelled outside of the contract and I just don't know what else to do!

Sorry for the long post but if anyone could help or advise me I'd greatly appreciate it thank you.

 

Just to add I cancelled in Feb and received this letter 19 June

Edited by dx100uk

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you should never ring them

and never be afraid of a DCA

 

 

a DCA is NOT A BAILIFF

and never can be on ANY debt.

 

 

what you simply do is write a LETTER

tell them that you are willing to pay ONE MONTH membership following your cancellation notification to them but not any unlawful penalty fess.

 

 

if they don't accept, you IGNORE THEM ALL.

 

 

there is nothing they can do to you

it cant harm your credit file

and

they don't do court.

 

 

read threads here too


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Thanks for the fast response, when on the phone earlier I asked her to send me a breakdown as to what I was been charged for. Do you think I should wait for this letter and then response with a letter stating I'll only pay for the one month?

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no send it now

matters not what they send now


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no send it now

matters not what they send now

 

I'll find a template on here and send a letter, thank you

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i think theres a sticky on this forums homepage

or theres 100's here from slick132 already read other threads.

 

 

dx


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Hi Bean and welcome to CAG

 

There's no rush to respond to Harlands/CRS - they'll have to wait !!

 

1. When did you join.

 

2. Was it an 11 or 12 month minimum m/ship term.

 

3. Did you give the give notice about cancelling by letter, email , phone or email and, if so, when.

 

4. What was the last date Harlands took a DD payment.

 

5. When did you cancel the DD mandate via your bank.

 

6. If you were withing the minimum m/ship period, did you have a valid reason to cancel like relocation of home or job; illness or injury; redundancy or drop in wages; etc.

 

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Hey slick, I joined January 2016

 

My email say 11 months

 

No notice given, as stupid as it seems I didn't realise any was needed

 

Not sure, I'm going to go bank and ask for a statement

 

Pretty sure it was February 2017

 

Was out of the m/ship period.

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Hi Bean,

 

First and foremost, Harlands/CRS are nothing at all to worry about. They are an nuisance but nothing more. Focus on your baby and forget these fools for now.

 

Give an answer to Q4 when you can.

 

After that, you can probably use one of my letters to offer Harlands a final 1 month's fee, which they'll refuse 'cos they're too greedy. But after your offer expires, you can ignore them !!

 

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I've not been able to get to the bank yet but received a breakdown of my bill

 

£29.97 - 3 months membership fees @ £9.99

£75.00 - 3 months missed payment charges @ £25.00

£66.50 - CRS recovery charge

£36.00 - Trace fee

 

Just thought I'd let you know what I'm been billed for ;)

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Hi Bean,

 

Out of interest, have you moved address since you left the gym prompting the CRS "Trace Fee" ?

 

Don't even bother going to the bank to get the answer to Q4. Just send the following letter to Harlands at their Haywards Heath address :-

 

Dear sir or madam,

 

I refer to demands recently received from Harlands/CRS about my Xercise4Less gym membership.

 

I was beyond my minimum membership period so was entitled to end it.

 

Because I failed to give you a month's notice, I now offer to pay this now. If you agree in writing within 14 days to accept £9.99 in full settlement of all that I owe, I will pay you promptly.

 

If fail to accept my offer or demand any higher amount, I will pay you nothing and ignore all demands from Harlands/CRS, Zinc or anyone else.

 

As I am about to have a baby, any further demands will be reported to Trading Standards and The CMA, as harassment.

 

Yours faithfully,

 

Send this to Harlands and get a free Cert of Posting at the PO when it's sent.

 

In your circumstances, you could also send the following letter to X4Less Head Office ;-

 

Xercise4less (Leeds) Ltd

Unit 1, Kirkstall Industrial Estate

Leeds

West Yorkshire

LS4 2AZ

 

Dear sir or madam,

 

Membership at XXXXXXX gym

 

I was a member at the above gym From Jan 2016 to Feb 2017.

 

I failed to give the required 1 month's notice when I cancelled my DD mandate and, since then Harlands/CRS have been demanding ever-increasing amounts from me.

 

I have now offered to pay Harlands the final £9.99 that was due but I will not pay what Harlands/CRS are now demanding, namely :-

 

£29.97 - 3 months membership fees @ £9.99

£75.00 - 3 months missed payment charges @ £25.00

£66.50 - CRS recovery charge

£36.00 - Trace fee

 

I am amazed you continue to use Harlands/CRS. Their tactics of bullying, persistent demands and harassment and well-documented on the internet.

 

I enclose a copy of my offer letter sent to Harlands today.

 

I am due to give birth in about 2 weeks and I do not need harassment from Harlands/CRS. Accordingly, will you kindly use your influence to get Harlands to not contact me any more at all, except for telling how I can pay the £9.99 I owe them.

 

I will NOT deal with this matter by phone at all, but in writing only.

 

Yours faithfully,

 

Same again about getting a free Cert of Posting at the PO.

 

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No I haven't moved at all, when I questioned the charge they said my address had been put down incorrectly (a few doors down) I asked how this situation was my fault when they'd input my data incorrectly and been sending letters to the other address... they still want me to pay this amount! I'll send the letters ASAP, thanks

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Hi Bean,

 

They are trying to justify something that is NOT justifiable !! They're such total chancers, really.

 

Send the letters and let us know what happens.

 

Oh, and stay OFF the phone. If anyone calls you, just hang up.

 

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Hey!

 

I sent my letters off 6/7/17, sent them signed and 1st class so both received them the 7th.

 

Hadn't heard anything of either until today where I've received a letter off CRS stating my balance has already been written off at the request of their client!

 

So I owe nothing, just thought I'd update you and say thanks 😊

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hey well done everyone!

 

 

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Hi Bean and thanks for the update.

 

It's nice to see X4Less actually take notice sometimes when told their agent (Harlands) is a nasty bully.

 

Hope all goes well with you.

 

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