Smart Parking ANPR PCN - Ravensdale front car park Clacton On Sea

[Eady]

Hi all looking for some advice I recently visited Clacton on sea and got a little lost pulled into a carpark while I made a phone call and left 14 minutes later and I got a letter through the door...

 

Info from the letter below.

 

1 Date of the infringement 26/05/2017

 

2 Date on the NTK 08/06/2017

 

3 Date received 12/06/2017

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [N]

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes

 

6 Have you appealed? not yet

 

7 Who is the parking company? Smart Parking

 

8. Where exactly Ravensdale front car park Clacton On Sea

 

Any info would be appreciated on how to handle this.

 

Thanks

[dx100uk]

can you please tell us where it says FINE on any of their paperwork please?

 

 

dx

[Eady]

Sorry maybe the wrong terminology it doesnt say "fine" anywhere it's a PCN

[dx100uk]

wrong terminology maybe ....VERY big difference

these people cant fine you nor issue fines

these are a speculative invoice in regard to you possibly breaking some kind of implied contract...

 

 

can you scan up the NTK to one mulripage PDF please click upload

[Eady]

Hi iv attached front and back of the letter received

 

Thanks for the help dx.

PCN.pdf

[dx100uk]

ok the troops well be around in the morning.

 

 

dx

[ericsbrother]

do you still have the envelope for this as the postmark may well sink their claim for them anyway as the date of issue is the last day it is possible to send one

 

 

it is not unknown for prking cos's to backdate their letters by anything up to a month and claim it was sent in time.

 

 

The fact that it was a weekend will damage their claim of correct service as the law doesnt give them any leeway in this respect

 

As for the NTK itself,

it is not POFA compliant for a couple of reasons

but that wont stop them from continuing their pursuit of you.

 

 

For the moment my advice is to do avoid any communication with them and get some pictures of the signage from the car park if possible.

 

 

If not possible tell us more about the place and we will look at Google street view and pick out what we can from there.

[Eady]

Hi Eric thanks for this. I still have the envelope but it's not date stamped sadly....

 

The car park is on ravensdale road Clacton on sea..

looking on Google maps it's before the car park became a pay to park area link below...

 

Clacton-on-Sea, England

 

https://google/maps/CzHXFFndfP12

[ericsbrother]

link doesnt work Im afraid.

 

The lack of P&D actually helps you because it will show the adequacy or otherwise of their signage at the entrance.

 

 

If you want to change the conditions of something that has been allowed for years you have to advertise these changes well so some piddly little sign placed badly wontcut the mustard.

 

That leads on to do they have planning permission for their signage we wonder?

As the local council if they have PP for the sigange under the advertising hoardings regs of the 2007 Town and Country Planning Act It is not deemed consent beacuse of the content but many planning depts cant be bothered to chase up such small fry so just a striaghtforward yes or no rather then pushing for the whys and wherefores.

Edited June 15, 2017 by dx100uk

[Eady]

Hi all so skip a month and I have now received a letter asking for £160 from a debt recovery agency.... what do I do now?

[dx100uk]

nothing laugh

they are not bailiffs and can do bugger all to you.

 

 

dx

[ericsbrother]

read up on debt collecting agencies for starters. TYis is a question you shouldnt find necessary to ask us because it is here a million times on other threads.

DCA's have no powers as they have no interest in any matter. they get paid to write threatograms and can do no more

 

Hi all so skip a month and I have now received a letter asking for £160 from a debt recovery agency.... what do I do now?