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My son was recently caught using his phone in school.

 

He wasn't in a class full of stdents and im all for disapline in schools and i a gree he should not have been using it in school.they. took the phone from him and confiscated it.

 

the only thing is that when I went uo to the school to ask for the phone at the end of the day they refused to let me have it back. they said they were allowed to confiscate it from us all .

 

now does anyone else know of this its not a band weapon noer a danger to student safety. she said that when we agreed to my son coming to this school we agreed to this law. not that i know of and i agree to the confiscation in scool but not to them confiscating it for 24hours solid

 

is this right anyone are the Gorse acadamy teachers allowed to play this part in our society.

 

Best part of this hypocritical lot the teacher who found him on the phone was actually on the phone at the time.


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Article in the Telegraph has a list of what schools can and cant do. Your query is the first in the list - the school can confiscate the phone, but it must be returned at the end of the day.

 

and another.

 

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/family/education/school-education/problems-at-school/

 

Confiscation of items

 

This information applies only to schools in England and Northern Ireland.

 

Disciplinary penalties may include confiscation and/or disposal of items like MP3 players or mobile phones. The confiscation has to be reasonable in the circumstances. For example, government guidance states that if a pupil is playing loud music on a personal music player, it would be reasonable to take it away and return it at the end of the day. But it would not be reasonable to destroy it.

 

 

Whilst the destruction of the item in your case doesn't apply - it does appear that it should be returned at the end of the day.


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Many thanks for this advise citizenb yes thank you I have seen this item but the school say they have the right to keep the phone for 48hrs

 

Even from me.

 

that has to be legally wrong surely

 

she said that we agreed to the rules by letting my son go to the school in the first place WHAT! Im all for the rules of in school discipline but you have now right to keep my goods against my will as an adult or a parent of a child

 

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Rose, perhaps you should ask for a copy of the contract/rules that you were supposed to have agreed to - you want a copy of the document from the time that your child actually started at the school and not the latest edition !


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I asked for an agreement that I had signed showing just such an agreement and all she said was that i agreed to the terms of all this by the fact that my son had come to this school.

 

What part of it didnt she get .she said i could call the police it wouldn't make any difference as they agree with them.they had it last week with someone else the police came and they said they were right. don't think so do you. There was nothing untoward about the phone nor did they have reason to search it for anything just the point that he was on it.Ironic hypocritical point was that the teacher taking the class that confiscated the phone had been on her phone prior to taking his phone off of him

 

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In my days we didn't have phones, but we had football stickers and marbles.

If I got them confiscated I wouldn't even tell my dad, otherwise he would throw the marbles in my head one by one (and we used to have lots).

Why don't you side with the school and teach your son a lesson?

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