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    • As I recall the only thing you tried telling us was based on a quote that you selectively edited by Lord James of Blackheath. You misrepresented it as a statement of fact when it was actually a question which was laughed at by his peers in the House of Lords.  We told you it was garbage, you asked us to prove it and we did.   Remember?
    • you need to realise that for every person that does come to CAG and register and tell their story...there are poss 10'000 that don't but search the interweb whereby threads that are here pop up relating to like issues they are searching upon.   Most CAG siteteam and many other registered Caggers give advice that bears this in mind and post information which not only informs the starter of a thread upon what to do, but also takes into consideration the readers from the interweb that also read the relevant advice given that might not be brave enough to register and fess up.   to that end, there is very little alternative than to appear to give 'grief' [you deserve it - tough] to a cagger should certain previous advice not have been followed.....yours is a very classic case of such. hey I've found a backdoor CCJ.   to put it bluntly, had you have followed such previous advice, you most certainly would not be in the situation you are in here now.. .so by example, not giving you grief, for future readers...………..   ...never ever move without informing a debt owner of a move of address on any consumer debt that you last used or paid within the last say 7yrs. your credit file is a major key to ascertaining that information.... .but don't just read this advice come to the consumeractiongroup.co.uk website and let us help.   lecture over... what can you do..or more importantly....what can a claimant do now they have a default forthwith judgement against you. well we can't guess.... they might simply ignore it as 1000's of people with CCJ's find out..but it becomes an issue should you wish to say get a mortgage, remortgage or further credit.   i'm not going to enter into any of that here...that's for the reader to start a thread here and seek advice on their individual situation specific to them as you have done....   so...  bearing the all of the above in mind...over to you with regard to this backdoor CCJ.   as for the other debts that you didn't action before...go read your old thread and action what appropriate advice is given there for each type of debt that has been given should you wish to avoid any further backdoor CCJ's.   dx                    
    • hello my very good helpful friend. I am afraid to say that i did not. As i did not realise the relevance of it.   Should i be doing this right now of anyone on my credit file ?   Plz don't give me grief if u have already advised me...   do i do the ccs request now to everybody in that thread ?    
    • aha busted and stupid ...no wonder you've got mixed information here. never trust anything they say ..they have a very bad reputation for stating the truth.   now can you go get your credit file please..   there are cases whereby a council on historic CTAX debts do go for a county court CCJ, but a liability order from a magistrates court has far more clout legally than a county court CCJ and i've never heard of a court sending a bailiff out for 'multiple' CCJ collection.   me thinks he is pulling the wool here a bit and has looked at your credit file and seen CCJ's too so thought he'd chance his arm and use those as further leverage.   don't worry about the sat visit simply ignore do not answer the door if he appears. your task is too gather data at present.   credit file please..        
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Lowell Claimform - old vanquis credit card debt***Claim Dismissed***

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I apologise, it must have deleted the page whilst i was editing the document to remove personal details. The page with my signature is there i can upload if you want?

 

Is there anything i should be worried about?

What is the best way in your opinion on how to approach the witness statement in court?

 

Could someone remove the attachment please i will upload once i have removed personal details

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I apologise, it must have deleted the page whilst i was editing the document to remove personal details. The page with my signature is there i can upload if you want?

 

 

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We had a thread quite recently Saj33 with this crew getting their claim dismissed on the grounds that their "Claimants case management " screen shots were irrelevant and not proof from the originating creditor.......you didn't enter into an agreement with Lowell ...so their self created case management prints are irrelevant.

 

If it was Vanquis screen shots and customer data...that would be a different matter.

 

Perhaps DX can recall and locate the thread.....think it was a catalogue debt?

 

 

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still no agreement with sig part saj?? [you can blank your sig but not the date]


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nope whatever case it was eludes my expertise..........

 

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doc in post 79 updated with missing signature page of CCA

 

why is the OC's sig etc been pasted in over the top? [page 12]

 

was that them or you?


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That was them, the only thing i altered on that page was my signature. Does the pasted signature look odd?

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yes it doesn't belong there

so another reason to throw the whole thing in to doubt over the 'true copy' of the ORIGINAL AGREEMENT

and its T&C's

 

I believe if you go look at other vanquish claimform threads with docs.

 

the T&C's also have the borrowers name and address up the top

your all just say us and you the borrower.

 

smells to me that the whole lot is a cut n paste jobbie by lowells designed to try an fool you and the judge.


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Hi,

 

Just preparing for my hearing tomorrow, thank you for all your help.

 

I will let the judge lead the hearing, so far i will argue the following:

 

1) lowell have failed to provide the original agreement and they have confirmed the exhibit in the witness statement is an application and not an executed agreement. The agreement looks to be pasted ( evidence of signature pasted over).

 

2) Lowell have failed to comply with the order

 

3) The screen shots showing transactions are irrelevant as it is not proof from the originating creditor.

 

4) I do remember having a vanquis account but i do not recognise the account number or the transactions listed in the witness statement.

 

Is there anything else i should mention?

 

I am going through various threads for now.

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Am i right with the above points?

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getting there keep going


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The only other thing i have noticed is the default letter and the notice of assignment from the original creditor do not have any logos, they are not the original letters.

 

I have never entered into an agreement with lowell, if lowell have purchased the debt, they should have all the supporting documents.

 

I do remember gaining an vanquis account however i do not remember any balance remaining on the account.

 

Lowell have failed to comply with the order and failed to respond to my cpr 31.14 request, lowell have had enough time to gain the documents requested.

 

Not sure what else i can say in my defense?

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well def hark on about that supposed signed agreement sheet

there something funny going on there with that pasted signed on behalf of vanquish box.

 

certainly backs up your whole story that its a cut n paste jobby

and that the T&C's are just filing cabinet copies without you name and address anywhere on them.

 

also, point out the bit in their WS whereby they state you admit to having the card

you didn't say that..

point out the exact wording from your defence.

 

watchout for them wanting a little chat

before you go in

smile and politely tell them to .....


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Thank you dx.

 

I am done researching so will go with everything i have stated above.

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Best of luck for tomorrow Saj33...update your thread...good or bad.

 

 

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Good luck today Saj

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I am the courts, just awaiting the hearing.

 

The solicitor took me into a room and tried to talk to me and i said you do know what happens at a small claims court

 

i said yes and there is nothing else to talk about then left the room.

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Its a win!!!!:)

 

The judge questioned the order and why the claimant did not provide all the documents as per the order, the claim was denied on that basis.

 

I did not speak at all but as i was leaving the judge did say i was very lucky :)

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Congrats saj great news

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Excellent, well done 😊. You must be delighted.

 

HB


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:thumb: Thread title amended to reflect the outcome....well done.

 

 

Regards

 

Andy


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