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    • Thanks for the welcome Andyorch   dx100uk - I have had 2 previous addresses since coming back to the UK.   Does this mean I should not ignore?   
    • I would be inclined to rip their WS apart. That way, I doubt that VCS would wish to proceed to Court.  In paragraph 5 VCS claim they have full compliance with their Code of Practice for Private Enforcement and Private Land. Really? Can this be the same VCS that was issuing PCNs between 2013 and 2017 knowing that the signage there had not been agreed by Liverpool council and therefore the signage was illegal. Here is an open letter from the Parking Prank   Tuesday, 19 November 2013 An open letter to Simon Renshaw Smith of VCS parking regarding Liverpool John Lennon Airport   19/11/2013 Dear Mr Renshaw Smith,   I wish to draw your attention to the procedural impropriety in your operational activities on the approach roads within Liverpool John Lennon Airport.   You are actively operating under contract to issue civil penalty tickets (PCN’s) for traffic offences on the roads such as stopping at the roadside, whether for seconds, minutes or even longer, or for parking on the roadside verges.   You are doing so based on an allegation of contractual agreement for a breach of parking conditions and are actively sending out a notice to keeper in each case where you ask for the name and address of the driver. You are doing this under the provisions of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012.   As you are no doubt aware, due to your many years of experience in emptying people’s wallets, where land is governed by byelaws the remedy for any breach of conditions of those byelaws is through the criminal courts, such as a magistrates.   Not only that, since the byelaws set an amount of penalty for failure to comply with them; a further amount based on your own assessment is unlawful at best and perhaps even fraudulent.   A set of the byelaws for the Liverpool Airport have now been obtained from a reliable source, Liverpool City Council,  which sets out the airport’s stance on roadway use, or misuse. It also lays down a penalty upon summary conviction for a breach of the byelaws of £5 for the 1st offence and a further amount of 40 shillings for a continued daily breach.   I put it to you that these byelaws govern the airport’s penalty regime for the alleged contraventions you are enforcing. In fact there is no penalty for stopping at the roadside. There is no offence committed so there can be no penalty unless it can be proven in a magistrate’s court that this action amounted to a failure under para 14: “Driving or placing a vehicle carelessly or dangerously or without due consideration for persons using the airport”   Para 18 gives notice that a “failure by the driver of a vehicle to comply with any direction for the regulation of traffic given by a constable or any person acting on behalf of the council or a traffic sign” will be subject to the penalty regime of the aforementioned £5 plus 40 shillings per day afterwards.   The mention of the traffic signs and the council's part in the overall monitoring means that the signs must be compliant to the TSRGD which are those shown for the public highways; not the ones arbitrarily stuck at the roadside by yourself which are meaningless in the context of the legal status of the byelaws.   Furthermore, POFA 2012 3(1)(c) states that Schedule 4 only applies on land on which the parking of a vehicle is not subject to a statutory control. It further states (3)For the purposes of sub-paragraph (1)(c) the parking of a vehicle on land is “subject to statutory control” if any statutory provision imposes a liability (whether criminal or civil, and whether in the form of a fee or charge or a penalty of any kind) in respect of the parking on that land of vehicles generally or of vehicles of a description that includes the vehicle in question.   The byelaws state at para 2.19 that the following act is prohibited. The penalty for this is a fine not exceeding five pounds.   POFA 2012 therefore does not apply, and you may therefore only pursue the driver and not the registered keeper. Moreover, you may only pursue them for the sum of five pounds.   Knowingly pursuing the registered keeper when POFA 2012 is an offence which the DVLA take extremely seriously and may ban you from access. The BPA wrote to you in their electronic newsletter this month reiterating this.   I put it to you, Mr Renshaw Smith, that your company is operating unlawfully at the Liverpool Airport site and ask what you intend to do since this has now been brought to your notice.   May I remind you that since this is an unlawful operation, you may well be required at some later time to recompense the amounts of the PCN’s already paid by drivers, and perhaps face tough questions in a court of law, not just a civil court.           Happy Stopping Briefly At the Roadside   The Parking Prankster   The Prankster would like to thank his source for the above   I am sure that you will find other examples of VCS not complying with Code of Conduct or the Law.   And of course VCS do not have the ability to take you to Court because you were a trespasser and only the land owner can take a trespasser to Court.          
    • Yes ...you have it confirmed by the court above that they requested a copy of the Order/Consent on the 2/08/2019....and then requested judgment on 21/08/2019 .
    • blimey J&P   I wonder how many more solicitor firms UAE creditors will try and use as a cheaper alternative to IRDWW and their cohorts that appear to have cost them £1000's in fees for nothing in return.   if this is not a letter of claim  pers i'd ignore them unless you have previous UK addresses since coming to the UK?
    • Thats the idea.....any further flaws with the reconstituted agreement ? They will be able to rely on a recon given that the agreement is post April 2007 but it must be accurate and a true copy of the agreement used from that date.   Andy
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If you're on JSA, why do JCP staff choose what jobs you should do?

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I was hoping that if I ended up on JSA, I could do their token jobsearch on the abysmal Jobmatch site and then do my own jobsearch later on at home at proper sites like Indeed or whatever, but it seems they're not letting you do that without a sanction. Why is that? Don't they trust us to look for ourselves? They honestly don't want people claiming benefits in the first place so it would be obvious that they would help us in our OWN jobsearch rather than theirs.

 

In fact, I heard a rumour that those upright machines with the touchscreens that print out jobs for you have disappeared entirely from ALL JCPs - is that true?

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Are you on JSA then?


Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Are you on JSA then?

 

Not at the moment, but I am certain I will be forced onto it soon, and I just want to know what I can possibly expect. I've been reading up on sanctions, suspensions and God knows what again and I can't believe what I'm heading for. All negative news!

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OK, so what is the story please?

 

Are you on ESA? DLA? PIP?

 

What are you currently claiming if anything??


Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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OK, so what is the story please?

 

Are you on ESA? DLA? PIP?

 

What are you currently claiming if anything??

 

I'm on ESA WRAG, but I think that time is coming to an end. I just filled in and sent off an ESA50, and am anxiously awaiting the result. My letter said the deadline was 4th of April, but I sent it off early on the 20th of March. I've been on ESA since (I think 2012) and I never had any demands for interviews nor sanctions nor anything, but I have a feeling I will be called up for a WCA as soon as possible and hell from then on. Even if I'm not called up for a WCA, I know I will be at some point and I feel depressed and sick about what's coming. Reading up such negative stuff on the internet probably hasn't helped, neither.

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Why can't someone just answer my question, from their own experiences? Why the third degree?

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The jobpoints were removed from JCP offices some time ago as you could search but not apply for jobs. So there are now computers available to use. The jobseekers agreement SHOULD be a discussion between you and your work coach and they should ask what type of work you think you are likely to achieve as well as what you would like to do. Try not to worry too much at the moment as you don't know what the outcome of your ESA50 is yet.

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The jobpoints were removed from JCP offices some time ago as you could search but not apply for jobs. So there are now computers available to use. The jobseekers agreement SHOULD be a discussion between you and your work coach and they should ask what type of work you think you are likely to achieve as well as what you would like to do. Try not to worry too much at the moment as you don't know what the outcome of your ESA50 is yet.

 

Yes, the jobpoints were quite useless, as although some jobs had an email address you could send a CV to, most had a phone number you'd have to call anyway, to apply. At least having the computers there is a better sign.

 

Thank you for this information, Flumps1976, and yes, I am worrying myself too much for no good reason, but I have always tended to do that in my life. And I should really cross that bridge when I come to it, and not read about other peoples' experiences but focus on my own circumstances as they arise.

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Why can't someone just answer my question, from their own experiences? Why the third degree?

 

Perhaps they want to ensure their personal experience matches with your circumstances.

No matter, since it's up to you if you want to run the risk of

a) getting people's experiences that are valid for their circumstances and not yours, or

b) people whose experiences are relevant to your circumstances deciding not to answer because it seems you'll just snap back at them.

 

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Why can't someone just answer my question, from their own experiences? Why the third degree?

 

People are asking you questions with the best of intentions - they are assuming you have a problem you need help with, and are seeking the information they need to offer advice. That's how this website works. As BazzaS says, it's a self-help site and you need to participate to get the best from it. Flumps1976 has also offered you excellent advice in pointing out that you don't yet know what the outcome of your ESA50/WCA will be. It's worth focusing on that for now.

 

You asked "Why do JCP staff choose what jobs you will do?" and then asked people to answer it in terms of their own experiences. The thing is, people can tell you what happened, how it happened and so on, but "why" isn't a question that can be answered from personal experience. JCP staff ask you to search and apply for particular jobs because that is what they are required to do. I think these rules are wrong, I think they damage people, I think they damage civil society as a whole, but we're stuck with them until we, as citizens of a democracy, force our politicians to change them.


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ESA WRAG is for 365 days then you're booted off it, whether they have found you work or not.

 

You should have been having WFI?


Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Can you elaborate?

You can use UJM plus other sites, whichever sites you feel is best for your goals, they'd prefer you to use UJM to log etc but that's your choice

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I'm on ESA WRAG, I've been on ESA since (I think 2012) and I never had any demands for interviews nor sanctions nor anything

 

If you've been on ESA WRAG since 2012, then it would have ceased in 2013, as you're only able to claim that for 365 days.

 

You will also be mandated to attend work focused interviews, and training in an effort to gain employment before your 365 days are up.

 

If you're in the ESA SG (support group) then you are NOT subject to the WFI or any training, UNLESS you wish to make yourself available to them.

 

What was the prognosis from your last WCA?


Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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I've never had a WCA.

 

I was on Incapacity Benefit / Income Support from 2005 up to around 2012, when I received an ESA50. I filled it in, sent it back, and they granted me ESA WRAG soon afterwards. I've been on it ever since, much more than 365 days, more like around five years, and never had a WCA.

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If you've been on ESA WRAG since 2012, then it would have ceased in 2013, as you're only able to claim that for 365 days.

 

That's contributory-based ESA. I'm on income-based ESA.

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