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    • Hi @BankFodder
      Sorry for only updating you now, but after your guidance with submitting the claim it was pretty straight forward and I didn't want to unnecessarily waste your time. Especially with this guide you wrote here, so many thanks for that
      So I issued the claim on day 15 and they requested more time to respond.
      They took until the last day to respond and denied the claim, unsurprisingly saying my contract was with Packlink and not with them.
       
      I opted for mediation, and it played out very similarly to other people's experiences.
       
      In the first call I outlined my case, and I referred to the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 as the reason to why I do in fact have a contract with them. 
       
      In the second call the mediator came back with an offer of the full amount of the phone and postage £146.93, but not the court costs. I said I was not willing to accept this and the mediator came across as a bit irritated that I would not accept this and said I should be flexible. I insisted that the law was on my side and I was willing to take them to court. The mediator went back to Hermes with what I said.
       
      In the third call the mediator said that they would offer the full amount. However, he said that Hermes still thought that I should have taken the case against Packlink instead, and that they would try to recover the court costs themselves from Packlink.
       
      To be fair to them, if Packlink wasn't based in Spain I would've made the claim against them instead. But since they are overseas and the law lets me take action against Hermes directly, it's the best way of trying to recover the money.
       
      So this is a great win. Thank you so much for your help and all of the resources available on this site. It has helped me so much especially as someone who does not know anything about making money claims.
       
      Many thanks, stay safe and have a good Christmas!
       
       
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asset/TM legal claimform - old Lending stream PDL ***Struck Out Twice & Costs***now third claim issued


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1.Asset collections and investigations claim this amount in respect of an unpaid loan funded by lending stream.

the defendant failed to abide by the terms of contract.

Asset collections purchased this debt and sent notice of assignment to defendant.

2,The defendant has failed to respond from the claimant thus denying the claimant any opportunity in assisting the defendant to bring this matter to a conclusion.

This is harder than i thought here is a rough defence

 

1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are vague and generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made.

 

2.Paragraph 1 is noted however the Defendant does not recall the terms of contract with The Lending Stream.

 

3.Paragraph 2 is denied the Defendant is unaware of any notice of assignment sent by the Claimant.

 

4.Paragraph 3 is noted however the defendant did not enter in to any communication with the claimant because no proof of debt has been sent.

No Default Notice

No Statement of Account

No Notice of Assignment

 

5.It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant,*

the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of assignment/balance/breach requested by CPR 31. 14,

and remains in default of my section 77 request.

 

therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to:

(a) show how the Defendant has entered into an agreement; and

(b) show how the Defendant has reached the amount claimed for; and

© show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim;

 

6.*On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82 A of the consumer creditAct 1974.8.*

By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hows this

 

Particulars of Claim

 

1.Asset collections and investigations claim this amount in respect of an unpaid loan funded by lending stream.The defendant failed to abide by the terms of contract.

Asset collections purchased this debt and sent notice of assignment to defendant.

 

2,The defendant has failed to respond from the claimant thus denying the claimant any opportunity in assisting the defendant to bring this matter to a conclusion.

 

 

The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made.

 

1. Paragraph 1 is not admitted with regards to the Defendant entering into an Agreement referred to in the Particulars of Claim for an amount of £601.50 .It is denied the defendant failed to abide by the terms of contract.It is denied the claimant has served any Notice of Assignment pursuant to the Law & Property Act 1925.

 

2. Paragraph 2 is denied the Claimant has not made any contact or followed any Pre Action Protocol in an attempt to resolve this matter and is put to strict proof thereof.*

 

3. The claim is disputed with regards to the Defendant owing monies stated to the Claimant and the Claimant is put to strict proof to:

 

(a) show how the Defendant has entered into an agreement; and

(b) show how the Defendant has reached the amount claimed for;

© show how any breach occurred and a valid Default Notice was issued,

(d) show how it has legal assignment of any alleged debt.

 

4. As per*Civil Procedure*Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed.

 

5. By reason of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed, or any relief.

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Ive added "or any relief" to the end if your para 5.

 

Looks good to go to me but when is your deadline to file?

 

Personally i would wait for andyorch to approve.

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Yes ive just been back to check the date for filing. Let andy approve, youve plenty of time.

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Defence checked...just a few tweaks to your points 1&2

 

Regards

 

Andy

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Have they sent you a copy of theirs mame ?

 

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Okay no great deal you may still receive a copy yet ...no worries if you dont.

We could do with some help from you.

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It isn't uncommon for claimants and defendants to be given a little extra time to file documents, it isn't strictly adhered to although it should be.

 

If the deadline for serving has passed then contact the court to see if they have filed their DQ.

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Not to worry its no big deal

We could do with some help from you.

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I have now received a court date and need to do a witness statement, will start that tomorrow.

 

All the papers i rely on in court need to be sent to the sols and the court is that correct?

 

do i need to resend the letters already sent?(cca request and cpr requests)

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Yes 14 days prior

 

Yes everything

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I have now received a court date and need to do a witness statement, will start that tomorrow.

All the papers i rely on in court need to be sent to the sols and the court is that correct? do i need to resend the letters already sent?(cca request and cpr requests)

 

The court has not seen anything yet...hence yes you must send everything you wish to rely on...with any response from the claimant.

We could do with some help from you.

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A quick update.

 

 

Deadline for witness statement was the 23 march sent mine in on time ,

 

 

I phoned the court today and the claimant have not sent theirs in yet but they have paid the fee .

 

 

The court date is may 9 .

On another site the same claimant waited till a week before court date and sent everything in by email with an apology to the judge for not being able to turn up at court and would the judge act on their behalf and strike out the defendants defense and ask for immediate full payment,

 

What can i do if that happens and the court allow it ,

it puts me at a big disadvantage by not seeing their docs for as long as they have had mine.

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