Secured loan with Firstplus sold to redcastle now Elderbridge with in arrears

[Ian6789]

Hi guys,

 

I'm new on this site, so please be gentle...

 

I took out a £85K loan with Firstplus in 2006 for a business, unfortunately, in 2010 our main client stop paying us, and that's when the problems started.

FP were great to start with and let me pay reduced payments, but the arrears built up.

 

Eventually, they transferred the loan to a company call Redcastle (still on reduced payments)

and then at the start of this years to another company called Elderbridge.

 

I contacted a website called [removed] and the advice one of their recommended advisors gave me some bad advice.

 

He/she said to stop paying even the reduced rates, starting various things Elderbridge had done wrong.

However, it looks like it was all totally wrong.

 

Now I have even worse arrears and Elderbridge are quite rightly threatening repossession.

 

Thankfully, I now do have funds available to start to pay off this loan

but was wondering, what I should start paying and should I try to negotiate with them,

to try and get a lower figure,

as I'm sure they bought the debt for a fraction of the price.

 

Any advice would be brilliant.

[BankFodder]

I expect that our site team member DX will have a look at this and give you some useful advice – better than I could. I'm really just posting for the benefit of other people who read your thread to say that any organisation which calls itself "get out of debt free" is quite frankly, an organisation which should be best avoided.

 

There is no such thing as getting out of debt free.

 

Did you pay for their advice?

[Ian6789]

Thankfully, no I didn't, but it was such a school boy error on my part. Thanks for coming back to me!

[dx100uk]

gotta admit if the loan went down the redcastle elderbridge route it usually stinks!

that's one hell of a figure for a company to sell on

when they could have taken you to court and probably crushed you.

 

was this in your or the businesses name?

were you a sole trader or Ltd or you signed a guarantee?

 

have you ever sent them an sar [to first plus.]

 

bit more history please

and is the charge still live?

[Ian6789]

Loan took out 2006,

went to court

but FP transferred to Redcastle and we agreed reduced payments.

I stupidly didn't realise this was just adding to the arrears.

 

Elderbridge took over Jan (I think this year).

 

 

They wrote to me a couple of weeks ago to say the possession order has now expired and I need to contact them to arrange a plan.

I emailed them a plan.

 

 

However, they email the same letter again yesterday plus a letter saying they have contacted their solicitors to ask the court to set an eviction date

 

I called them today,

told them they had sent to letters and that I had emailed them with a payment plan.

 

I have no idea, what I should do.

 

Thanks

[dx100uk]

Urm that doesn't sound right me

They can't just email a court

 

Bet it doesnt says will anywhere

 

Is the charge on your house still showing?

 

And answer me other Q's too

 

Seems like they've got you on a string through threats that have been mounting over the years that go nowhere

[ericsbrother]

possession order expired?

 

then they have to start all over again, not just contact court to set date.

 

This means that you have time to get a SAR to them and get a response before anything is going to happen.

 

I'm sure that once they know they have been rumbled they will be more accommodating.

[Ian6789]

Wow, thank you both so much for this information. I will email them tomorrow with this inforamtion and get the SAR sent to them right away. I cannot thank you enough for helping me.

[Ian6789]

I have the SAR ready to go on Monday, so thanks for that. Could I ask what will this do ie how does a SAR help.

 

Also, re the possession charge, how could I find out that it has expired - as Elderbridge has stated.

 

Thanks again!

[dx100uk]

there will be £1000's of penalty charges and all manner of other stuff to reclaim

 

go read this thread.

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?411012-FAO-anyone-with-a-Firstplus-secured-loan.

 

can you check if the charge still shows on land registry

and who's [company] names against

 

and who got the org possession order

[Ian6789]

Just ordered the title deeds from the Land Registry, hopefully it should be sent tomorrow (office hours). Will update, when it's through. Again, thank you so much!

[dx100uk]

should be viewable online?

[Ian6789]

Yep, sorry went via a different website.

So I've now done it via .GOV.

Is it just the Title register required?

 

 

If so this is what's on it -

 

(27.01.2016) Proprietor: ELDERBRIDGE LIMITED (Co. Regn. No. 8896386) of

Target House, Cowbridge Road East, Cardiff CF11 9AU.

4 (02.03.2006) REGISTERED CHARGE dated 14 February 2006.

5 (02.03.2006) Proprietor: LANDMARK MORTGAGES LIMITED (Co. Regn. No.

3273685) of Admiral House, Harlington Way, Fleet, Hampshire GU51 4YA.

6 (02.03.2006) The Charge dated 3 September 2003 referred to above is

postponed in priority to that dated 14 February 2006 referred to above.

End of register

[dx100uk]

ok so its there

 

now you have that info

if you've not read that thread I linked to in post 10

 

should be an eye opener and direct what you do

[Ian6789]

Sorry, I'm new to all this. Does that mean Elderbridge does still have a possession order? Even though they've said it's expired?

[slick132]

Hi Ian,

 

You say in post #1 that you've called Elderbridge. You need to stay OFF the phone completely and keep everything in writing only.

 

You say in post #8 that you'll email them with this info. Two points perhaps :-

 

1. Email may not be the best form of communication. Posted letter can be better, to avoid fast ping-pong email exchanges.

 

2. What exactly do you intend saying to Elderbridge. Personally I think you need only send a formal SAR with the fee.

 

[Ian6789]

Hi Slick 132, really appreciate the advice and will no longer call them. They don't respond to emails (company policy they say) so I guess that's still OK to continue.

 

I haven't heard back from dx100uk yet re the possession order. Elderbridge stated that the order has now expired, but I'm not sure if that has come up in the land registry information. They sent me 2 letters on the same day, one stating that the possession order had expired and another stating that the eviction process was taking place, so I panicked - shamefully.

 

Re the SAR, having read the threads, I thought it should be sent to Firstplus, not Elderbridge. Is that right?

 

Thanks so much - feels like I'm not alone with this forum

[Ian6789]

Sorry another thing. They are sending me and income/expenditure form to fill in. Should I do this, or ignore?

[slick132]

Ignore the I&E form just for now.

 

Have you read through the whole of the link posted in post #10 above ?

 

[Ian6789]

I've only managed to skim through it, as we've been at a swimming gala for my daughter this weekend. Will read it all tonight. Thanks for the feedback on the I&E form!

[dx100uk]

the charge is there

 

 

possession is something entirely different

 

 

go read that thread

[Ian6789]

OK - thanks so much!!

[slick132]

I've only managed to skim through it, as we've been at a swimming gala for my daughter this weekend. Will read it all tonight. Thanks for the feedback on the I&E form!

 

No probs. It's worth reading it through and understanding, so you're better placed to deal with your own case.

 

Edited November 20, 2016 by slick132

[Ian6789]

OK, will do. Can I ask slick132 and dx100uk do you work for this site? When this is all over - I need to repay you both.

[dx100uk]

no silly we are like you volunteers..

 

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