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    • I think that rather than right, you should first of all telephone. However read our customer services guide. Implement the advice there. Then telephone and have a conversation which leads round to the loan and whatever agreement there might have been to repay. Get it recorded. Then write to him and asked him to confirm the telephone conversation. If he confirms it then you are on your way. If he doesn't confirm it or denies it then it becomes even more interesting and I think that you will properly have you more leverage. You say that you believe that you lent the money to the company and that the company has now sold. As long as the company has been sold and not dissolved then the loan to the company is still current and the company debt to you is still current. I think the first senior to do is to get the evidence – and I think you should follow the advice that I have given. The fact that the person has stopped contacting you is extremely troubling. The fact that the company ownership was transferred is even more troubling and so I think that you are dealing with somebody who is trying to be slippery about this – and so your way forward is clearly that you also have to act it in a slippery way. Come back here when you got the evidence and we will help you to the next step
    • Met usually use ANPR and get the timings massively wrong so they will be timed out. they must have used CCTV to watch the vehicle occupants "leave" and this is probably a breach of the GDPR as it wont be one of the specified reasons on their licence to spy on people so will breach protocols 1, 2 , 3 and possibly others in the list of the 8 main protocols of data protection.   It also breached the POFA as the timings are wrong so no keeper liability anyway.   The wording they use refers to the liklihood of the issuing of a NTD and thet never happened so the 56 day limit isnt applicable. My advice? ignore them as they rarely do court because they know they are incompetent
    • sorry, I meant to say UNLESS  so yes my answer reads the wrong way round
    • the terms in the contract will in many cases be unfair and thus you will be entitled to the bonus and there is case law on this. However, it is not a simple matter to resolve as it will have to take into account what the contract says and what the normal practice and expectations are for the bonus scheme. For example, Jhn Lewis pays out to anyone employed there on the relevant date so leave the day before and you lose out becasue it is a partnership and you would no longer be a partner. No schemes that withold bonuses until a certain time of the year MAY have to pay out but if your bonus is for the quarter that your resignation fell in then probably not. If it was for say Oct-Dec then you will ahve fulfilled the requirements of a qualifying period regardless of the contract saying no bonus and would more than likely be successful in a claim to recover such monies. A scheme that has been running for soem time would be part of yoru contract even if there is nothing specific included in your paperwork as it becomes implied as part of the conditions you agreed to when joining to co and staying there.   i know this doesnt give you a definite answer but hopefully makes it a little easier to see how your situation may work out
    • You have a big problem and that is proving the debt. for a debt to be created there must be an agreement that the money will be repaid, how and in what time frame. As far as the law goes you either gifted the money or loaned it in a way where you cant take civil action to recover it because there are no explicit terms. Now the BUSINESS doe owe you £2k and the debt will have passed on to the new owners but you still cant take steps to recover the money other than to ask the new business owners for it. They may deny the debt and you will be impossibly placed to prove it because there is nothing in writing. Proof of money transfer doesnt prove the debt exists nor how it should be repaid even if it did. you will lose a court claim due to the lack of paperwork showing how and when the repayment should take place. Sorry for your predicament but you are where you are
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I also got a PCN from ECPs in july 16, for parking at the Shell garage, Gatwick. ANPR demanding £100 - £60 if i pay now

On the advice of Money saving expert, i have ignored the letter

Now its mid Nov 16, Debt recovery plus ltd have written asking for £160 on behalf of clients ECP, with 5 days to pay or they take to court

 

On basis of what ive read here, im gonna gamble to ignore and see what happens.....am I right?

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I got a PCN from ECPs in july 16, for parking at the Shell garage, Gatwick. ANPR demanding £100 - £60 if i pay now

 

On the advice of Money saving expert, i have ignored the letter

 

Now its mid Nov 16,

Debt recovery plus ltd have written asking for £160 on behalf of clients ECP, with 5 days to pay or they take to court

 

On basis of what ive read here, im gonna gamble to ignore and see what happens.....am I right?

 

That was 20 mins ago, and ive just read a few stickys and one says NOT to ignore any correspondence

I thought this had gone away as ive not heard a thing since July.

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Dr+ can do nowt


please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, the whole DCA industry would collapse overnight.

 

 

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That is not what DR+ said,

that is what they want you to think they said,

 

 

they have no interest in anything and can do nothing at all other than write scary letters.

 

Ignore them,

I doubt if ECP really have the heart to lose money taking it further

but you should tell us if you still have the original NTK so we can forearm you should you get more hassle.

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Ive thought more about this since posting yesterday and a few points come to mind

 

1. Anyone can enter the Shell garage forecourt and spend their time and money there both on fuel and in the shop / toilet. So flipping what if that takes more than 20 mins.

 

2. I didnt sign a contract to accept the parking terms as I didnt go there to park.

I went in to use the toilet and get some coffee and food

 

3. I get begging letters from all sorts of charities etc asking for donations. I dont subscribe to them. What makes ECP any different?

 

4. I have not received a pro forma invoice for parking there

 

5. I didnt issue a purchase order to ECP and wont be paying their invoice.

 

6. I havent entered into any dialogue or correspondence with ECP or DR+, and their letters were normal mail, so they have no proof Ive even had the letters.

 

7. No one patrolled the park, no one issued a ticket, in fact no one knows my reason for even being there.

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all of the above is irrelevant as far as contract law goes so dont go there.

Ignore DR+ but let us know if you get letters from anyone else.

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Car parking companies do not collect evidence

 

They only ever collect confessions

 

Keep your mouth shut

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