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    • The Notice to Hirer does not comply with the protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule  4 . This is before I ask if Europarks have sent you a copy of the PCN they sent to Arval along with a copy of the hire agreement et. if they haven't done that either you are totally in the clear and have nothing to worry about and nothing to pay. The PCN they have sent you is supposed to be paid by you according to the Act within 21 days. The chucklebuts have stated 28 days which is the time that motorists have to pay. Such a basic and simple thing . The Act came out in 2012 and still they cannot get it right which is very good news for you. Sadly there is no point in telling them- they won't accept it because they lose their chance to make any money out of you. they are hoping that by writing to you demanding money plus sending in their  unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors that you might be so frightened as to pay them money so that you can sleep at night. Don't be surprised if some of their letters are done in coloured crayons-that's the sort of  level of people you will be dealing with. Makes great bedding for the rabbits though. Euro tend not to be that litigious but while you can safely ignore the debt collectors just keep an eye out for a possible Letter of Claim. They are pretty rare but musn't be ignored. Let us know so that you can send a suitably snotty letter to them showing that you are not afraid of them and are happy to go to Court as you like winning.  
    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
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    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
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My housing association has decided to use parking control management to annoy the residents .

 

 

I live in a small block of 8 flats and there haven't been any restriction to parking for the 9 years I have lived here.

 

 

There are only 3 people with cars but now it is going to create a problem with visitors and as most people are elderly there will be problems with carers.

 

They have issued one permit for each flat and say there is no visitor parking which wouldn't be too bad but there is no road parking for more than two hours

 

I would appreciate help to get rid of this permanently rather than going through numerous battles with pcm

 

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How old is the property?.

 

Others may be able to gain an 'easement by prescription' (as a result of protracted use of the right, without force, secrecy or permission), but 20 years usage is required .... 9 is not enough.

 

There are other ways in which an easement can be created, including 'necessity' and 'common intention', but it may be hard to show necessity, and the other party may claim there was never common intent!.

 

is there anything in your lease regarding parking?

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Hi the property is 100 plus years old but has had four flats added to the original .I will check the lease .

 

 

hi just cant find anything on lease but this is a letter of consultation setting out what they intended to do anyway.

I have attached also the signage .Do they have to obtain planning permission for these ? I f they do I doubt that they got it as the management team has even used penalty charge instead of parking charge!

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The contract is between your LL and this cowboy company, NOT with any resident, they'll never be able to enforce this as your tenancy agreement has supremacy over anything else.

 

I wouldn't be overly concerned with them, but I'd definitely be making a complaint with your LL regarding the use of cowboy parking outfits.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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thanks for that reassurance .

Its seems my life has been taken over with all these companies trying to grab money off you for minor infringement and forgetting to pay congestion and dart charges etc . I am so sick of it . I am not alone by the sound of it.

 

PCM even say that the landlords will not have any say in this But believe me they will be getting it from me .

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If the parking is covered in the lease.

 

However, the OP says the lease doesn't mention parking.

 

What do you feel should happen with people who don't pay the congestion charge?

 

What do you feel should happen with people who don't pay the DART charge?

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And parking charges. What wrong is it is wrong that if you dont pay 2.50 you are sued for hundreds of pounds . It is out of proportion to the original debt.

I realise that my lease may or may not include right to park but it is obviously assumed to be included as they are making residents permits. The problem I have is that there was no need for it in the first place as the most people dont have car it just restricts visitors .

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Neither does my tenancy agreement, however there is a car park for residents to use, and as it isn't in the tenancy agreement, no contract with the PPC can be formed, as the tenancy agreement has supremacy, the agreement is between the LL and the PPC.

 

Ask the LL how much profit they get off the PPC issuing invoices, should they ever manage to enforce one.

 

Is it a private LL?

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Housing association I am sure that money is the driving factor even though this is a charity. Whatever that means as they are running it just like they are any other business . Private letting etc. I am grateful though to have this flat .

 

Genesis.

 

 

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Yes most if not all, HA's are run 'not for profit'.......but mine made a tidy sum last year!

 

I would raise the issue with you housing officer, explain that it is unnecessary.

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That would be the "common intent" approach, assuming it was included.

 

They may dispute that, saying that if they'd had intended to agree parking for particular people they'd have either

A) put it in the lease, or

B) issued permits before.

 

It can be argued either way!

 

They could say "we never intended to provide parking for anyone. Now it has become a problem, we are ensuring there is a scheme to benefit residents"

Were there marked bays / spaces before??

 

If they want to rely on the signage to create a contract, then the signage must be legal.

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They could say "we never intended to provide parking for anyone. Now it has become a problem, we are ensuring there is a scheme to benefit residents"

 

Parking has never been an issue according to the OP, they clearly have provided parking for residents, else there wouldn't be an issue here.

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Does that involve applying to the local authority to put them up in the first place? Sorry just looking for an easy out.

 

You've got your easy out. your tenancy agreement!

 

It's your LL that has a contract with the PPC, not any of the residents.

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