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    • Mother and father worked here and then went to SA in about 1978 returning to UK in about 1996 and worked here until 2016 when her husband died at age 66.  He was still working at the time.  She then went to live with daughter in SA.  Mother only claims for her pension. 
    • Thanks, I owe the money, no issue with that, I will SAR the company.  If I need to just pay it and have the CCJ for a few years so be it.  Just thought I'd explore all options
    • By the way you wrote that post, i can see that you are as confused by the situation as someone reading it. Important advice must be not to pay for any flights etc, until they understand the situation fully. Those that have British passports could be entitled to receive UK benefits. However, nothing is that straightforward. The passport does guarantee anything. The daughter could be entitled to Universal Credit ( which includes housing) as a British passport holder, but this can only be confirmed when she has gone through the Habitual Residency test (HRT). So you will need to read about HRT for British passport holders returning to the UK. There will be requirements to provide information about why they are returning to the UK and what work searches have they done to find work on their return to the UK. In regard to the mother who has a British passport, you will be correct in presuming that no council is going to be helpful in paying for the care home fees immediately on arrival in the UK. When did the mother last live in the UK ? When did the mother last work in the UK ? British embassy in South Africa may be able to provide information and assist with applications ? Just getting on a plane, landing in the UK and expecting help to resolve their situation, would be a silly thing to do. I can see the mother ending up in an NHS hospital for a period, while people wondered how they were going to deal with the situation. Probably not the first to do this, but if the mother also has a South African passport, they could put her on a plane back to SA and then the Daughter would be a difficult situation. Embassy in South Africa must be first place of advice.
    • There are online forums for people moving from South Africa to the UK. This is one of them.   https://moveup.co.za/2019/03/08/how-to-move-to-the-uk-a-step-by-step-guide/   If you want to speak to a social worker you could try the local council.   HB
    • This is not our issue, but an issue with a friend.  Our friend is living in South Africa and now suffers from dementia and is in a home.  The daughter has been paying for the home however the daughter was made redundant and has a child to support.  Daughter's husband keeps kicking her out of the house with the 3 year old boy and daughter had nowhere to go. The mother and daughter both have British passports.  Mother and father(now deceased) are British born, but daughter was born in South Africa.   The 3 year old was born in in South Africa.  Daughter is now broke and cannot keep the mother in a home any longer.  Daughter wants to return to the UK where she did live for several years previously so had NI number etc. however not sure what she can do with her mother.  The other issue is that the father is trying to get custody of the child so another issue. We, on behalf of the daughter who phoned us this morning, want to discuss with a social worker the options if any that may be open as on arrival here the mother will need to go straight into a home.  We can offer the daughter and child temporary accommodation with us.  Who should we contact? A very complicated scenario that normally we would not involved ourselves with as we are in our late sixties, retired and not that much money in the bank. 
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How the hell have we got to a choice between Corbyn or Johnson

 

I'm quite sure that without each other, neither would be leading parties by now.

Labours Corbyn cock-up enabled Johnson, who is enabling Corbyn.

 

 


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3 hours ago, honeybee13 said:

 

And they want to tear up the Human Rights Act.

 

Yeah, but "get brexit done" and all that rubbish....

 

Also, sadly, a lot of people think human rights are only applicable to those other "people" and only when they're being used for something dastardly 😂

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I actually think although Boris will win a majority, very little of this will come to pass,  I don't think people are voting out of a love for Johnson, only that he appears to be the least worst candidate. He's got potential to be very unpopular, if not now, perhaps in the next few years when we will be approaching 15 years of Tory government.

 

All it takes is a good new Labour leader and the political landscape might look very different in the next few years.  


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Our PM has really covered himself in glory this week, hasn't he?

 

He took away a journalist's phone because the photo on it inconvenienced him and this morning he seems to have hidden in a fridge to avoid a TV interview he didn't want. Very professional.


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None of the Party Leaders have showered themselves in glory, Johnson is a clown, and Corbyn apparently as antisemitic as Hezbollah.


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The other question is. What if Johnson gets a majority? Surely Corbyn will have to go.


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Corbyn will step down straight away if they dint get at least a hung parliament.  If I'm honest, I can see him stepping down if a hung parliament is produced in order for a coalition to be formed.

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If Corbyn did step down, McDonnell might try to take over a Trotskyist replacing a marxist, still the same result though.  As an aside, wonder if they will nationalise bailiffs, with all those exiting new business and other taxes etc to enforce on when they aren't paid due to bankruptcies?


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12 minutes ago, brassnecked said:

If Corbyn did step down, McDonnell might try to take over a Trotskyist replacing a marxist, still the same result though.  As an aside, wonder if they will nationalise bailiffs, with all those exiting new business and other taxes etc to enforce on when they aren't paid due to bankruptcies?

 

Make the most of using this website as we'll all be debtors prisons soon as we cant afford to live in Tory Britain 

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Sadly I think the right will win. In part directly because of leaving the EU but also because people are tired of not seeing the country being governed - they think Brexit then down to running the country. 
 

I am holding my nose and voting tactically , we have a new Tory candidate and a strong LD machine. Labour didn’t even select until the 11th hour 


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15 hours ago, honeybee13 said:

Our PM has really covered himself in glory this week, hasn't he?

 

He took away a journalist's phone because the photo on it inconvenienced him

 

and this morning he seems to have hidden in a fridge to avoid a TV interview he didn't want. Very professional.

 

Good job (for Johnson, not us) that Gove wasn't anywhere nearby eh HB?

 

Everyone would be wondering where Johnson was while Gove was announcing he would stand in until Johnson was found

... whilst leaning against a fridge door ...

 

 

 

and anyone who thinks either of these blots on British Politics will resign under any circumstances is deluded.

They might get thrown out , and claim they resign - but even that is doubtful

Clinging on like a mountain climber clinging to the side of a rockface in an avalanche comes to mind.

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I express my honestly held opinions - they are nothing more or less than that.

... Its just doing some due diligence that makes them seem unusual ...

 

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2 hours ago, brassnecked said:

If Corbyn did step down, McDonnell might try to take over a Trotskyist replacing a marxist, still the same result though.  As an aside, wonder if they will nationalise bailiffs, with all those exiting new business and other taxes etc to enforce on when they aren't paid due to bankruptcies?

 

Surely someone in Labour must realise that they need to change. As much as I hate The Tories and Brexit, it would almost be better if Labour lost really big because it would have more chance of actually evolving into an electable opposition for next time.

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38 minutes ago, London1971 said:

As much as I hate The Tories and Brexit, it would almost be better if Labour lost really big because it would have more chance of actually evolving into an electabel opposition for next time.

 

Similar thoughts here

 

But as I also think both need stopping, and the libdems need more time to build, Johnson is the biggest enemy.

... Which is of course what Corbyn is depending on and the only thing propping him up.

Vicious circle

 


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I'm still sat here wondering why people hate Corbyn so much.  He's the reason I switched from LIb Dem to Labour because he's started talking about the things I've been going on about for years.  Privatisation as the biggest issue.

 

The Lib Dems aren't left enough any more, and have almost merged with the Tories.  In the same way New Labour merged with Thatcherism in the late 90s.

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I'm still sat here wondering why people hate Corbyn so much.  He's the reason I switched from LIb Dem to Labour because he's started talking about the things I've been going on about for years.  Privatisation as the biggest issue.

 

The Lib Dems aren't left enough any more, and have almost merged with the Tories.  In the same way New Labour merged with Thatcherism in the late 90s.

 

Corbyn isn't that bad in my opinion, but he is unelectable, that's why he needs to go.


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3 minutes ago, London1971 said:

 

Corbyn isn't that bad in my opinion, but he is unelectable, that's why he needs to go.

 

Who is electable though?  Another Blairite?  Someone who dresses in a sharp suit, goes through the motions and talks like a robot?  Because I don't see any positive change for Labour .. I'll probably go back to voting Green

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Keir Starmer seems to talk a lot of sense. And there's Emily Thornberry.

 

The problem seems to be the far left clique around Corbyn and their line on Brexit. If he'd been able to say what he thought, it might not be like this.


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13 minutes ago, Jase1982 said:

 

Who is electable though?  Another Blairite?  Someone who dresses in a sharp suit, goes through the motions and talks like a robot?  Because I don't see any positive change for Labour .. I'll probably go back to voting Green

 

Appeals to the middle, that's the way it's always been.  Yup, another Blairite will do it. Sure not perfect but infinitely better than Johnson.


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issue with Corbyn is he is now identified as antisemitic, and any government headed by him could end up with a British Dreyfuss affair.


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29 minutes ago, London1971 said:

 

Appeals to the middle, that's the way it's always been.  Yup, another Blairite will do it. Sure not perfect but infinitely better than Johnson.

+1

 

Far better an elected majority 'Blairite, than any form of elected Johnson or extreme ERG/Thatcherite

.. or any unelectable, undesirable, untrustworthy Marxist/Leninist/loonist

 

Trouble is we are left with choosing/losing our left nut or our right nut at the moment ...

(apologies to the Ladies for one interpretation)

 

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29 minutes ago, brassnecked said:

issue with Corbyn is he is now identified as antisemitic, and any government headed by him could end up with a British Dreyfuss affair.

 

Yes but Corbyn isn't antisemitic.  That's the thing; I've not seen any specific antisemitism from him .  Several examples of questionable stuff from fringe members of the party, but the way I look at it is that they are representing the British people.  Yes, they should do more to route out these issues that are evident, but I can't see any evidence that Corbyn is anything close to Hitler (As some have tried to say).  In my working life I come up against all the discrimination's you can think of  .... racism, sexism, homophobia... What I mean is that these versions of discrimination are evident throughout society, and everyone should look at themselves before blaming the leader of the Labour party for all racism.   The criticism he has received has been staggering because everyone seems to be outraged whilst at the same time proliferating an atmosphere of discrimination in every day life.... fulled by the Tory party and people like Farage.

 

Why isn't anyone jabbing Farage in the eye and asking him to apologise for all racists?  Yet they're still happy to have him sat in their studios for a friendly chat even though he's not an MP.

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Whatever, 

 

But he (Corbyn) needs to go if Labour achieve anything less than a hung parliament.


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I agree, but it seems that leaders who say they'll stand down decide not to when it comes to the crunch, because they enjoy power.


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That is exactly what they do HB, then you get the whispers, the stalking horses and the backbiting, and the voters suffer for it.


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2 hours ago, London1971 said:

Whatever, 

 

But he (Corbyn) needs to go if Labour achieve anything less than a hung parliament.

 

He already came out and confirmed john McDonnell would take over temporarily if they lost

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