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You're the one making the claim that it is garbage, I quoted what was said in the House of Lords.

 


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On successful election as PM OR NOT and after illegally leaving the EU, The Tories will poison 99%  the population so they can frack to their hearts content without interference

They will keep the other 1% as slaves.

 

By your own rules, Prove its not true

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... Its just doing some due diligence that makes them seem unusual ...

 

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Stop trying to change the subject, you have been caught out and don't like it


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Just now, Maharg1 said:

Stop trying to change the subject

I'm not

The subject is post utter bollocks isn't it

 

and you are still winning


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 The whole thread is utter bollox with all your claims that the Tories will do this and Johnson will do that.

You are a typical undemocratic Lefty remoaner  who is throwing his toys out of the pram because you can't get your own way.

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https://fullfact.org/europe/hunt-eu-army/

 

" The EU doesn’t have the legal power to act in this area unless member governments actively give their permission. "

 

" “common defence” will only come about “when the European Council, acting unanimously, so decides”. Unlike in other areas of EU decision-making, the European Commission can’t propose laws about security and defence, and any decisions in these areas must be made unanimously. "

 

" UK law also states that no such common EU defence powers can be handed from the UK to the EU without the approval of parliament and a referendum on the decision. So the government would need the support of both the public and MPs before they could make such a decision. "

 

 

Now your turn to prove what I said was false

 


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Prove it ?

 

As for a referendum, in your eyes they don't count for anything.

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The proof is that EU and UK Law prevents it.

 

 

Now you prove what I said is wrong

Johnsone has proven he will break the law

He proven he's morally bankrupt

Fracking is an abomination pressed against local communities wishes

 

 

Now you prove what I said isn't true

 

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READ THE LINK AGAIN, it is what was said in the House of Lords so it you don't believe it then ask him to prove it.

 


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“There is non so blind as those who do not wish to see!”

Maherg1 it does not matter what you say on this forum

they laugh at you as being stupid and not knowing what

you are talking about, as they say the chickens will one

day come home to roost, and then they will be laughing

on the other side of their faces. He who laughs last

laughs longest, but their wont be anything to laugh at, if

we continue to be subservient to this undemocratic club.

 

A little poem to sum it up:- A Brexit Rhyme  

 Won’t you join our Common

Market? said the Spider to

the Fly,
It really is a winner and the cost is not too high,

I know De Gaulle said “Non”, but he hadn’t got a clue,
We want you in, my friends and I, for we have plans for you.

You’ll have to pay a little more than we do, just for now,
As Herr Kohl said, and I agree, we need a new milch cow.

It’s just a continental term believe me, mon ami,
Like “Vive la France” or “Mad Anglais” or even “E.E.C.”

As to the rules, don’t worry friend, there’s really but a few,
You’ll find that we ignore them – but they all apply to you!

Give and share between us, that’s what it’s all about
You do all the giving, and we all share it out.

It’s very British, is it not, to help a friend in need?
You’ve done it twice in two World Wars, a fact we must concede,

So climb aboard the Market Train, don’t sit there on the side,

Your continental cousins want to

take you for a ride.

 

  

  

  

 

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4 minutes ago, Maharg1 said:

READ THE LINK AGAIN, it is what was said in the House of Lords

 

so it you don't believe it then ask him to prove it.

 

 

Oh, if some nutter who happens to be in the house of Lords says it - so its true,

despite the laws of the EU and UK refuting it

 

err Nope

 

Johnson is PM - I don't believe a word he says,

... because he is REPEATEDLY demonstrated to be a liar.

 

I don't believe what that nutter you quote says - because its complete hogwash - as I have demonstrated

 

 

 

Your turn to prove what I said is wrong

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I express my honestly held opinions - they are nothing more or less than that.

... Its just doing some due diligence that makes them seem unusual ...

 

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There are nutters on here claiming their posts are true and non more so than a certain tobyjug.  

 

Why won't you ever answer a question and just debate, why do you always have to be so rude because someone speaks out against you ?

 


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2 minutes ago, Maharg1 said:

There are nutters on here claiming their posts are true and non more so than a certain tobyjug.  

 

Why won't you ever answer a question and just debate, why do you always have to be so rude because someone speaks out against you ?

 

 

Supported evidenced posts

and not just supported by some outrageous complete and utter bollocks rant from bollocks central

err brexit central whatever you call it

 

 

 

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I express my honestly held opinions - they are nothing more or less than that.

... Its just doing some due diligence that makes them seem unusual ...

 

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7 minutes ago, buckthorn said:

“There is non so blind as those who do not wish to see!”

 

 

A little poem to sum it up:- A Brexit Rhyme  

 

 Won’t you join our Common

 

Market? said the Spider to

 

the Fly,
It really is a winner and the cost is not too high,

 

I know De Gaulle said “Non”, but he hadn’t got a clue,
We want you in, my friends and I, for we have plans for you.

 

You’ll have to pay a little more than we do, just for now,
As Herr Kohl said, and I agree, we need a new milch cow.

 

It’s just a continental term believe me, mon ami,
Like “Vive la France” or “Mad Anglais” or even “E.E.C.”

 

As to the rules, don’t worry friend, there’s really but a few,
You’ll find that we ignore them – but they all apply to you!

 

Give and share between us, that’s what it’s all about
You do all the giving, and we all share it out.

 

It’s very British, is it not, to help a friend in need?
You’ve done it twice in two World Wars, a fact we must concede,

 

So climb aboard the Market Train, don’t sit there on the side,

 

Your continental cousins want to

 

take you for a ride.

 

 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

 

 

That poem sums up the EU perfectly


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So - going to try and prove what I said wrong (both cases)

or are you admitting defeat.

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... Its just doing some due diligence that makes them seem unusual ...

 

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Waiting for something other than hysterical 'kipper rants .... in response to the reams of tidy, easy to read and understand evidence posted

 

 

 


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... Its just doing some due diligence that makes them seem unusual ...

 

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I may not always agree with everything Tobyjugg says but they do make valid arguments and not just bad cut n paste unsupported rubbish that has no basis in fact. 
 

I have to say, an EU army maybe a good thing if NATO fails as it might just. It’s not about waging war it’s about preventing. The European project, favoured by Churchill has kept peace in Europe. It is the rise of Nationalism and little Englanders who could end that 

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We have for centuries run joint military operations with other nations and groups of nations.

Operations with the EU are no different,

and are in fact far more desirable and necessary given the undermining of NATO by Trump,

but we still work with NATO, the UN, the USA as well as the EU and many many others - including to our shame Saudi Arabia.

 

 

That rant by the kippers was  utterly ridiculous.

Still - they've got their big letters up in the thread. Best win they could get without real facts.


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1. Did the nation vote to leave the EU or not ?

2. Are Labour opposing that ?

3. Is Labour calling for another referendum ?

4. Is labour going to negotiate a new Brexit deal, (even though they don't know what the present one is), and put it to the people in a referendum

and then campaign against the deal they have just negotiated ?

 


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7 minutes ago, Maharg1 said:

 

 

* Were the voters lied to in the Leave campaigns?

 

* Is Leave delivering on ANY of its statements - especially those that were supposed to have occurred before leaving?

 

* Is Brexit stated by the bank of England to have cost 880 million pounds a week

 

* Is Hard Brexit is estimated to cost one billion pounds a week in lost trade just through Dover

 

* How much  industry and finance and Investment is leaving the UK because of brexit?

 

* Should there be a confirmatory referendum on the real situation before leaving - as sold by the Leave campaign?

 

* Is Boris Johnson a lying Piers Morgan?

 

* Has Rees Mogg moved his finance company to the RoI

 

* Has John Redwood advised his investors to move out of the UK before Brexit

 

 

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See, you have done it again, just like the anti-Semitic Labour party, you have refused to answer a single question.

 

Just typical of you.


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Just now, Maharg1 said:

See, you have done it again, just like the anti-Semitic Labour party, you have refused to answer a single question.

 

 

I'm still quite a few answers up on you.

No more credit until you've paid off some of that debt.

 


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So what do you think about Rees Mogg moving his business to the RoI

.. hardly showing confidence in his own Brexiteering is he?


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Just like Marxist Corbyn, excuse after excuse after excuse.

You just don't want to admit someone else is right.  That is the action of a coward.


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