Article 50 Discussion

[honeybee13]

...and the Greensill scandal, BN.

 

I think there's more to come out on this, but the Guardian has published a list of people who've moved from government to working for the company. It's longer than I expected.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/apr/15/david-cameron-to-lord-hogan-howe-the-figures-hired-by-greensill

[brassnecked]

Greensill is worrying for sure don't think Cameron and other's  currently in UK Gov they even care though.  They have their snouts in other lucrative troughs

 

[tobyjugg2]

+ any 'investigations' will be whitewashed with 'no wrongdoing' found

[honeybee13]

I know.

[tobyjugg2]

I see Amsterdam has confirmed its taken over from London as the major european share market

 

brexiters say: Who cares about European shares when we have UK companies like Nissan, EDF and the like (sic)?

 

Why should Brexiters care? - well, because a lot of the fall in London trading, and rise in EU market trading is because since January, US Financiers need to trade EU shares through EU markets rather than the lighter regulated (allow more shysterism) London

 

- Strange as some of the largest US financial money barons funded Brexit campaigns.

Only benefit to the US barons is damage to what WAS one of their largest  most powerful competitors outweighs the benefits they had of protection from EU regs in using London to trade?

 

Analysts expect Frankfurt to be the final winner, with Dublin and Paris also expected to gain massively from London losses, further reducing Londons importance.

 

"The total of 440 relocations is higher than anticipated and well above the 269 in New Financial’s 2019 survey. New Financial believes the real number is well over 500."

"Some 7,400 jobs have moved from Britain or been created at new hubs in the EU, the study said. Bankers have told Reuters that some staff moves have been delayed due to COVID-19 travel restrictions."

 

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/amsterdam-has-overtaken-london-as-europes-biggest-trading-centre/

See also MUCH earlier in this and preceding thread.

Edited April 17, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

clarification

Only benefit I can see to the US barons is damage to what WAS one of their largest  most powerful competitors outweighs the benefits they had of protection from EU regs in using London to trade?

[tobyjugg2]

I see that although Starmer is happy to work 'constructively' with Johnson the treacherous two faced liar and the populist self serving chumocracy party,BUT he won't work with anyone else to call out Johnsons lying:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/apr/19/parties-inquiry-boris-johnson-failurehonest

Parties call for inquiry into Boris Johnson’s ‘failure to be honest’

"The Labour leader, Sir Keir Starmer, was invited to sign the letter, but declined."

"A party source said Labour did not normally sign up to initiatives launched by other parties."

- despite whipping the party to support Johnsons disastrous Brexit 'deal.

 

Starmers as bad as Corbyn for 'enabling' the populist crap to fly unimpeded

Edited April 19, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

Johnsons £2.6 million Populist spin Palace is confirmed as just another of the looooooong line of Taxpayer money wasting Johnson vanity projects:

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-studio-allegra-stratton-b1834700.html

 

and the farce errr face of no10 - Aliargre Strattons move from the was to be spin central to 'act' as unrepentant and inveterate liar Johnsons  voice of COP26 seems to confirm that all the UK's COP26 will do is blow polluting hot air into the atmosphere ... rather than the opposite.

Mind you, shes being paid very well from taxpayer money to do it.

[brassnecked]

Johnson is a total imbecile, there TJ I've said it

[honeybee13]

Waste of money, it looks terrible anyway. Maybe they 'only' spent £600k on the media suite and the other £2m went on the Downing Street flat?

[brassnecked]

That HB could have more than a grain of truth in it, they are oh so creative with expenses and refurbs when the Taxpayer is ultimately picking up the tab.

[tobyjugg2]

Apparently/allegedly/rumoured to be that the popilist Tory blue background chosen was already being used by pranksters as a very effective blue/green screen background, with one having Palpatine (Darth Sideous) in the background overlooking his padawan Johnson on the podium ..

 

Smacked Johnson straight in the ego and had to be canned

 

excuse me while I change my wet undies ...

 

Edited April 21, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[honeybee13]

I did see that about the blue colour lending itself to prank videos.   I think I saw one or two on Twitter.

[tobyjugg2]

of course some think its the other way around, and that palpatine is looking at his master Darth Plagueis

 

(I didnt even know there was a darth plageuis until this - but some claim there no such thing as coincidences eh? and that name is a lulu LOL)

[tobyjugg2]

I see Truss is Trashing even more opportunities for trade deals

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/liz-truss-australia-trade-talks-b1835072.html

[honeybee13]

She's an embarrassment.

[tobyjugg2]

I think Johnson, Handcock, Truss, Jenrick, gove et al believe the Nolan Principles are 'I'm in the mood for dancing'

.. or possibly 'Tommy and Maureen'

[honeybee13]

Oh dear.   Who sees this going well?  'Boris Johnson proposes saving United Kingdom with 'Project Love' plan'

 

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/westminster-news/project-love-boris-johnson-7900106

 

 

[brassnecked]

Johnson is an imbecilic muppet there I've said it.

[honeybee13]

The government is scrapping the Pick for Britain scheme that hoped to draw in Brits to replace migrant workers.

 

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/westminster-news/brits-reject-pick-for-britain-campaign-7916574

[tobyjugg2]

On 04/04/2017 at 16:01, tobyjugg2 said:

Up to 100,000 UK jobs at risk as Merkel and Juncker ally warns on euro clearing

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/04/uk-jobs-merkel-juncker-euro-clearing-eu-manfred-weber-brexit

 

"Clearing houses are independent parties that sit between the two parties in a trade and are tasked with managing the risk if one side defaults on payment. London clears around three-quarters of all euro-denominated trades."

 

Manfred Weber, the leader of the centre-right European people’s party, the largest political group in the European parliament, said during a press conference in Strasbourg on Tuesday:

“EU citizens decide on their own money, When the UK is leaving the European Union it is not thinkable that the whole euro business is managed in London. This is an external place, this is not an EU place any more. The euro business should be managed on EU soil.”

 

When you think about it, with the UK already denying its financial commitments even before talks start with the EU, how could the UK be trusted to guarantee financial transactions? .....

..

 

* The financial businesses that are about 30% of the UK GDP off to the EU (well except the really crooked ones who daren't - they might stay)

* Independent Scotland banning Nuclear subs from its waters so it can get at the offshore oil and Gas in ITS waters

 

 

 

 

Well, we're seeing the euro shares/clearing move now that Brexit has happened

... and somebodies staring to click about the other items raised back in 2017 too

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/apr/26/trident-overseas-or-halted-scotland-independence

 

[tobyjugg2]

Boris' City of London

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/27/uk-to-come-under-scrutiny-in-italys-largest-mafia-trial-in-decades

"Investigators say the secret of its (’Ndrangheta Mafia) success lies in its ability to connect the underworld with the upper world, where often the “upper world” stands for London. In the last decade, hundreds of investigations have asserted how the ’Ndrangheta has laundered billions of euros in the City."

 

Camerons £200M Pension Pot at the expense of the NHS:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/apr/18/nhs-england-chair-lord-prior-of-brampton-faces-demands-to-explain-greensills-lobbying-of-nhs-bosses

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/apr/23/greensill-expected-22bn-flotation-that-could-have-meant-cameron-windfall

Largely a 'usury' Payday loan company, targetting the NHS payroll, apparently made of wind and piss 'with potential' to be valued at £20Bn, Giving Cameron £200M, provided it got £20Bn in taxpayer money lobbied for by Cameron and was helped by Dido Harding and David Prior to get embedded in the NHS payroll mechanism so it was 'too important to fail'

 

Johnsons' Sewage filled waterways and profit mongering water companies:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/apr/19/sewage-island-how-britain-spews-untreated-waste-rivers-sea

"raw sewage had been pumped into English rivers via storm overflows more than 200,000 times in 2019. In November, Surfers Against Sewage (SAS) published data showing that untreated wastewater was discharged on to English and Welsh beaches on 2,900 occasions in a year."

"a 37% year-on-year increase"

 

Edited April 27, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[honeybee13]

I hadn't seen this before. French fishermen in Boulogne blocked trucks carrying British fish.

 

They had a placard that said 'You want to keep your waters??? OK...So keep your fish!!'

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/french-fishermen-protest-brexit-regulations-by-blocking-british-fish/

[tobyjugg2]

and another £3.5 Billion a year of export losses mainly to small UK businesses (ex Tory voters now one would think) to be added to the Brexit Bill

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-milk-cream-export-eu-b1838200.html

 

"Milk and cream sales to the EU have slumped 96 per cent as a result of Brexit-related trade barriers, according to figures released this week.

The Food and Drink Federation said the new trading arrangement with Europe had cost exporters more than £1.1bn since January, when Britain left the customs union and single market.

Milk and cream exports collapsed by 96.4 per cent while cheese sales to the EU fell by 64.6 per cent in the year to February."

[tobyjugg2]

A little heads up on the issues of whats coming up in Camerons Ponzi Pay-day loan Pension Pot Greensill saga

 

If you read through the following, and note the material cross referenced, you will see that this is all again the Gnomes (or should that be Knights) of Credit Suisse yet again packaging piles of foul wind and yellow water and selling it, with Cameron set to make £200M and run after dumping the turds on the NHS and Taxpayer

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/12/world/europe/david-cameron-greensill-inquiry.html?searchResultPosition=3

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/apr/26/greensill-made-scramble-for-cash-months-before-collapse-us-court-filings-claim

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/06/business/credit-suisse-losses-archegos.html?searchResultPosition=4

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-greensill-idUSKBN2B01WB

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/22/business/credit-suisse-reports-a-loss-as-regulators-open-an-investigation.html?searchResultPosition=2

 

Effectively Greensill seems a Ponzi scheme created from hot air, looking to rise to the dizzy heights of being a payday loan scheme foisted on the NHS in stages to milk money from the NHS and UK taxpayers to keep its pyramid afloat.

Edited April 27, 2021 by tobyjugg2