Article 50 Discussion

[honeybee13]

Thank you, I'm with you now.

[honeybee13]

Tony Connelly of RTE has a Twitter thread about the letter sent yesterday from Maros Sefcovic to Michael Gove about being asked to rewrite the agreement from the end of last year.

 

Tony thinks Sefcovic is playing hardball and you can see that he's pointing out various actions that the UK hasn't carried out as promised since signing the agreement.

 

https://twitter.com/tconnellyRTE/status/1359590841619275776

 

[tobyjugg2]

If changes were agreed ... johnson and gove would quickly renegue on those too

[honeybee13]

You're sounding rather negative today, TJ?

[tobyjugg2]

Not at all

I'm quite positive that would be the case

 

But the Tory populists are learning ...

Learning they can get away with more every week.

Edited February 11, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[honeybee13]

Very good.

[tobyjugg2]

That PPE:

"Suffolk County Council said 5.9 million products failed to comply with UK safety standards, which was more than half the items checked.

It found nearly all hand sanitiser consignments did not comply."

[honeybee13]

Words fail me...

[Conniff]

[honeybee13]

The Western Allies?

 

I think you already posted the above text in yellow, Conniff.

[Conniff]

this getting old is rubbish, makes you forget things.

[tobyjugg2]

14 hours ago, Conniff said:

'some populist garbage about who won the war

 

'Yes, America and its puppet mouthpieces like to remind us that America saved us all' said Macron

Edited February 12, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

and in addition to the 5% increase in council tax which will hit the poorest hardest

Rishi Sunak ‘plotting £6bn raid on personal tax allowances’

The plans could cost the average family £250 per year by 2024-25

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/rishi-sunak-personal-tax-allowances-budget-b1801319.html

 

 

[honeybee13]

Anything but tax the rich, they're Tory donors...

[Conniff]

Instead of just whinging and sounding like the BBC, come up with some other means to replay the massive debt this Chinese virus has brought on us ??

 

 

[honeybee13]

I thought the BBC parroted most of what the government says these days?

[Conniff]

Just answer the question ?

[honeybee13]

Use the Brexit dividend.

[Conniff]

I know we paid them an obscene amount but it wasn't in the £trillions

[tobyjugg2]

1 hour ago, Conniff said:

I know we paid them an obscene amount but it wasn't in the £trillions

as you seem to have missed it, the figure referred is

Rishi Sunak ‘plotting £6bn raid on personal tax allowances’

a total of a little over a quarter of the 22 BILLIONish spent on just the PPE mentioned here, with apparently half of that PPE duff as tested.

Just get that half that squandered PPE cost back from the Tory selected suppliers and you would have almost double the amount Sunack is planning on grabbing form the poorest BRITISH public

 

When you also take into account that 4 times the rate was paid for the crap/undelivered PPE from those specially selected Tory populist pals ... there would even be money to feed hungry british kids - not that the Tory populist **** would.

In fact just the £20 million plus  one middleman referred that got over 20 million for crap .. that one persons 'bonus' alone would have been 20% of the money needed to feed hungry British kids that the Tory populist **** voted against.

 

The bottom line is that Johnson and Hancock bypassed proper tender processes and shunted money to their carefully selected pals outside a transparent tender process

 

 

and permanently removing the transparent tender process which was bypassed in wasting billions is part of the planned NHS reorganisation

It should start hitting the headlines in not too long.

 

Edited February 12, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[Conniff]

£6bn is nowhere near the £trillions we are in debt.

 

it matters not where the money has gone. There was a moan about tax increases and a suggestion that the debt be paid back using the Brexit Dividend.

It has to be repaid so if not by tax increases then how ??

[tobyjugg2]

12 hours ago, Conniff said:

 

it matters not where the money has gone.

 

Of course it does if the services the money was paid for have NOT been delivered - Get the money back rather than have the taxpayer pay both the original sum and interest for years

 

... and get rid of the incompetent numpties who misused it  before they waste more.

 

[honeybee13]

Yorkshire Bylines are logging details of jobs lost due to Brexit on their Digby Jones index.

 

https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/the-digby-jones-index/

[unclebulgaria67]

Brexit is causing problems for companies up and down the country. The added costs have meant that some business is no longer profitable and UK companies will lose consumer trade in EU market to companies based in EU market. 

 

This was talked about during the Brexit debate, but was labelled as "project fear",  but now is "Brexit reality". Over the next few years the UK will suffer during a period of adjustment as it tries to work out how to fix the economic conditions to enable UK businesses to be competitive. This is going to be very expensive at a time when Covid-19 has caused a 10% drop in GDP and record Government borrowing. 

[honeybee13]

Arron Banks and Leave.EU have lost an appeal over a data breach and misusing subsribers' data.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/14/leaveeu-donor-arron-banks-loses-data-breach-appeal