Article 50 Discussion

[tobyjugg2]

Absolutely unreal

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-exports-eu-trade-talks-latest-b1797559.html

[honeybee13]

Absolutely, TJ. It sounds like more of 'They need us more than we do them.'

 

I tell you what, guys, let's shoot ourselves in the other foot, that'll tell those Europeans.

[honeybee13]

More on how border checks were inevitable.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/04/brexit-northern-ireland-protocol-trade-deal

[tobyjugg2]

and the DUP

after pressing Johnson to invoke article 16 for weeks

... then screaming blue murder at the EU for even (stupidly) suggesting for a few hours that they might invoke the article 16 that the DUP had been screaming to be invoked

... return to demanding article 16 be invoked alongside ..

Brexit: Loyalist figure suggests ‘it may be time to fight physically for our freedoms within UK’

" Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) Chief Constable Simon Byrne has since said claims that loyalists were ready "to fight" were "inflammatory", adding it is "now time for wise words and calm heads".

Mr Byrne warned of a "febrile" atmosphere after 26 graffiti incidents were detected across NI, and officials carrying out customs checks at ports in Belfast and Larne were withdrawn following threats."

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-northern-ireland-sea-border-loyalist-b1797786.html

[honeybee13]

Perhaps Doris shouldn't have taken Northern Irish goodwill for granted...

[tobyjugg2]

ROFL

Ghana seemingly gives Truss Trade Team a thrashing

UK finalises Ghana trade deal

The UK and Ghana have concluded negotiations on a future trade deal, the Department for International Trade (DiT) has announced.

Liz Truss, the international trade secretary, said on Twitter the deal accounts for £1.2bn in trade and would be signed shortly.

DiT said the agreement will provide for:

 

"duty free and quota free" access for Ghana to the UK

and

"preferential tariff reductions" for UK exporters to Ghana.

 

- independent news feed

[honeybee13]

It sounds one-sided, I agree.

[tobyjugg2]

Doesn't bode well for US (or even Mexico) negotiations if even Ghana can do that does it?

[honeybee13]

[honeybee13]

Ministers knew about problems with exporting to Northern Ireland and the EU soon after the deal was signed by Boris Johnson but also up to 15 months before that. Their own departments' reports set out what would happen.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-55952459

[brassnecked]

That issue was a certainty HB  after May and the Lancaster House speech.

[unclebulgaria67]

Brexit worse than feared, says JD Sports boss - BBC News

 

The boss of one of Britain's big retailers says Brexit has turned out to be "considerably worse" than he feared.

Peter Cowgill, chairman of JD Sports, said the red tape and delays in shipping goods to mainland Europe meant "double-digit millions" in extra costs.

 

He told the BBC the company might open a distribution centre overseas to help mitigate the problems, and that would mean job losses in the UK.

 

The BBC has asked the government for a comment.

 

Mr Cowgill's criticism echoes that from exporters and importers across the UK.

New UK-EU trade rules came into operation on 1 January. But since then, there has been growing concern from businesses as diverse as seafood exporters from Scotland and food suppliers shipping products to Northern Ireland.

[honeybee13]

The articles seem to be coming in thick and fast now, UB and I don't remember seeing a positive one.

 

David Allen Green's blog today is about the UK not understanding that taking back control/sovereignty means not being part of EU lawmaking, or being consulted by them. What did they expect, I wonder?

 

https://davidallengreen.com/2021/02/the-noises-made-by-united-kingdom-ministers-complaining-of-exclusion-from-european-union-decision-making-is-the-sound-of-brexit/

[tobyjugg2]

35 minutes ago, honeybee13 said:

What did they expect, I wonder?

 

 

The cake and eat it assured by the leave campaigns, especially as assured by Johnson 'The Liar' and Gove 'Evil Wallace' and of course the Really-Smugg British Tit also missed off the mug.

 

Lets hope these suffering businesses stop funding the Tories ...

Edited February 9, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[unclebulgaria67]

I have noticed some reduction in supplies in Supermarkets of some goods.  But whether this is down to Brexit or Covid or snow in parts of the UK or  a combination of  all three.  It appears to be mostly processed foods that are not available as much, with UK fresh produce still available.  I heard some Tesco staff talking about not receiving some of the stock.

 

We may start to  see a reduced amount of choice over coming months, but this may not be a bad thing, if it encourages shops to stock more locally sourced fresh produce. 

[tobyjugg2]

I noticed some suspiciously thin shelves at Tesco and Morrisons before the bad weather.

+ Not seen a day or two of much worse weather affect the shelves at supermarkets ..

[Conniff]

[tobyjugg2]

Boris Johnson speaks German during Angela Merkel meeting

 

https://www.express.co.uk/videos/6075258616001/Boris-Johnson-speaks-German-during-Angela-Merkel-meeting

 

Undoubtedly a great improvement on the 'Lewis Carroll' he spouts to us.

Edited February 10, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[honeybee13]

Supermarkets for expats or shoppers who like British style foods have started to buy from Ireland instead, because of problems at the border. This isn't good for UK jobs.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-irish-suppliers-called-in-to-save-bacon-of-uk-supermarkets-serving-expats-in-europe-12213189

[tobyjugg2]

... but better than the ERG's really hard Brexit would have be ....  will be?

 

Perhaps consider it practice, or an easy introduction to Johnson and the ERG's real Brexit to come

Edited February 10, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[honeybee13]

I'm not sure what you mean, TJ.

[honeybee13]

Here's an interesting thread by a historian, on UK food security in the 1970s and how that led to joining the EU.

 

https://threader.app/thread/1337526891868254208

 

 

[Conniff]

That's wrong, there was no such thing  then, only the Common Market which the uk agreed to join.

[honeybee13]

Thank you, I've altered my post.

[tobyjugg2]

1 hour ago, honeybee13 said:

I'm not sure what you mean, TJ.

 

Johnson has not to my knowledge ever kept to any agreement - maybe a few selected bits - but nothing more

This highlights its recent issues although I've raised it previously

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/09/eu-to-seek-more-time-to-ratify-brexit-trade-deal-amid-tensions-with-uk