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    • I'm still pondering/ trying to find docs re the above issue. Moving on - same saga; different issue I'm trying to understand what I can do: The lender/ mortgagee-in-possession has a claim v me for alleged debt. But the debt has only been incurred due to them failing to sell property in >5y. I'm fighting them on this.   I've been trying to get an order for sale for 2y.  I got it legally added into my counterclaim - but that will only be dealt with at trial.  This is really frustrating. The otherside's lawyers made an application to adjourn trial for a few more months - allegedly wanting to try sort some kind of settlement with me and to use the stay to sell.  At the hearing I asked Judge to expedite the order for sale. I pointed out they need a court-imposed deadline or this adjournment is just another time wasting tactic (with interest still accruing) as they have no buyer.  But the judge said he could legally only deal with the order at trial. The otherside don't want to be forced to sell the property.. Disclosure has presented so many emails which prove they want to keep it. I raised some points with the judge including misconduct of the receiver. The judge suggested I may have a separate claim against the receiver?   On this point - earlier paid-for lawyers said my counterclaim should be directed at the lender for interference with the receiver and the lender should be held responsible for the receiver's actions/ inactions.   I don't clearly understand that, but their legal advice was something to do with the role a receiver has acting as an agent for a borrower which makes it hard for a borrower to make a claim against a receiver ???.  However the judge's comment has got me thinking.  He made it clear the current claim is lender v me - it's not receiver v me.  Yet it is the receiver who is appointed to sell the property. (The receiver is mentioned/ involved in my counterclaim only from the lender collusion/ interference perspective).  So would I be able to make a separate application for an order for sale against the receiver?  Disclosure shows receiver has constantly rejected offers. He gave a contract to one buyer 4y ago. But colluded with the lender's lawyer to withdraw the contract after 2w to instead give it to the ceo of the lender (his own ltd co) (using same lawyer).  Emails show it was their joint strategy for lender/ ceo to keep the property.  The receiver didn't put the ceo under any pressure to exchange quickly.  After 1 month they all colluded again to follow a very destructive path - to gut the property.  My account was apparently switched into a "different fund" to "enable them to do works" (probably something to do with the ceo as he switched his ltd co accountant to in-house).   Interestingly the receiver told lender not to incur significant works costs and to hold interest.  The costs were huge (added to my account) and interest was not held.   The receiver rejected a good offer put forward by me 1.5y ago.  And he rejected a high offer 1y ago - to the dismay of the agent.  Would reasons like this be good enough to make a separate application to the court against the receiver for an order for sale ??  Or due to the main proceedings and/or the weird relationship a borrower has with a receiver I cannot ?
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    • You could send an SAR to DCbl on the pretext that you are going for a breach of your GDPR . They should then send the purported letter of discontinuance which may show why it ended up in Gloucester and see if you can get your  costs back on the day. It obviously won't be much but  at least perhaps a small recompense for your wasted day. Not exactly wasted since you had a great win  albeit much sweeter if you had beat them in Court. But a win is a win so well done. We will miss you as it has been almost two years since you first started out on this mission. { I would n't be surprised if the wrong Court was down to DCBL}. I see you said "till the next time" but I am guessing you will be avoiding private patrolled car parks for a while.🙂
    • It is extremely disappointing that you haven't told us anything about the result of the hearing. You came here at the very last minute and the regulars - all unpaid volunteers - sweated blood trying to get an acceptable Witness Statement prepared in an extremely short time. The least you could have done is tell us how the hearing went, information invaluable for future users. Evidently not.
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
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Do you think if the vote had gone the other way the leavers would not have moaned

 

 

As most people who voted leave never thought it would happen (as did politicians, etc) then I think they would have just accepted it.

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Do you think if the vote had gone the other way the leavers would not have moaned,read what your hero says before the vote

 

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-farage-wants-second-referendum-7985017

 

Are you taking the mickey, young Warren?

 

HB

 

Id never mess with our Queen Bee. :)

 

 

You never mess with a protected species :)

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There is some interesting information about the Scottish and Welsh legal cases to Article 50 Supreme court case, which can be viewed online. Basically they are saying that under devolution, the UK government cannot take away their rights or negotiate their removal using executive powers (Royal Prerogative) and they either need consent of devolved assemblies or to amend existing rights through passing full legislation in UK Parliament.

 

It is more complicated than that, but i don't really understand it, as it is written in legal jargon and points to previous legislation which i don't have knowledge of. But given how complicated it will be, i don't think Supreme Court Judges will publish their decsision in January. It could take them months to go through all of the arguments.

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John Major last week I believe, said it is not democracy where we have to accept mob rule of a majority win with the referendum result. IMO daft statement. Let's take out 'mob' as to me that's a demeaning remark against those he doesn't agree with. When we vote in a general election, the majority vote wins. If he's saying that's not democracy then maybe we should change our government system say all parties rule all the time. No need to vote.

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We voted out as we did not like being dictated to by the EU and hope that this article 50 gets triggered soon as that will help the currency market firm with the sterling. I have no regrets or second thoughts about our vote as I am proud to be British. After all Britain managed without the EU for hundreds of years and had good trading relationships with many countries. I was an immigrant, but paid my way here and had to pay to get my British citizenship and passport.

I along with the few American friends have supported and hoped that Trump would win and were pleased when he did as Clinton would have been bad for America and the world. Once Trump is in office hopefully he will probably support us and put pressure on the EU to give us a fair deal.

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:) now that 'i'm allright, jack...' (re post #1033)

if its going to be free/fair (that you want) trade deal (which May seems to be assuring the likes of Nissan etc), it'll still (more) be 'dictated to' by the eu, but then without any input....

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Once Trump is in office hopefully he will probably support us and put pressure on the EU to give us a fair deal.

 

:!:

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If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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Just a few points, sorry to go back over old ground

Devaluation was only of relevance in the days of Bretton Woods and when currency was pegged ish to the dollar which was linked to gold. That has been gone for 40 years.

 

I think we can all agree, there are definitely inflationary pressures, fuel is increasing as are costs of imports . Ok so maybe the £ is strengthening against the euro but that says more about the euro than the pound.

 

If we agree there are inflationary pressures we need the think how it will be controlled, modern policy says increase interest rates. Now when Thatcher started this, it was the direct cause of U employment.

Interestingly, the sale of council houses has been blamed for high interest rates and unemployment in the late 80's and now the government look like they want to push this agenda again.

 

These things take time to come through as shown time and time again.

 

Nice to see surfer knows the reason why people voted out, if only it was that simple. There were many reasons why people voted out which included immigration, a protest against the elite and yes the often exaggerated power of the EU over the UK. I would also argue that much of the changes supported by the EU have actually benefited the average person.

 

I also think that to say we managed without the EU so we can again, misses the point. The world is a different place with different rules and we are a different nation.

Any opinion I give is from personal experience .

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They also get funding from big banks and big business, also government departments,

the CBI (now there’s a surprise, who would have thought that?)

plus other organisations.

 

So these are some of the people who want us to stay in the EU, well they would wouldn’t

they, but then turkeys wouldn’t vote for Christmas.

 

Just because being in the EU is good for banks, and it is, DOESN'T mean its bad for people - it isn't.

 

The current bank system is bad for the UK whether we are in the EU or out.

 

Why is the EU 'OK' with our financial system?

because they get competitive loans while the UK taxpayer (NOT EU taxpayer) takes all the risks.

 

Why do the banks like the UK?

Protected from failing and paying taxes - which they wont get in the EU.

 

 

I can sympathise with buckthorns stance that 'people I hate want to stay so I want to leave' but I am resisting cutting off my arm to spite a finger with a split nail.

I think trimming the nail would be far more in my interests.

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If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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Could be a good way to resolve Brexit arguments. Set up a few boxing rings in towns and cities across the country. Let people get the steam out of their systems.

 

The worst thing about Brexit will be the uncertainty created by it. We won't know what is really happening until about 30 months time. We might not even know then, because most people involved in the process are saying it could take 5 to 7 years. The UK government wants Brexit with the EU to be agreed within 2 years, but that might prove impossible.

 

I fear that there will be violent reactions by some across the country when Brexit is frustrated. There is a possibility that the government cannot proceed with Brexit, without a full Parliamentary process, a general election or a second referendum.

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The worst thing about Brexit will be the uncertainty created by it. We won't know what is really happening until about 30 months time. We might not even know then, because most people involved in the process are saying it could take 5 to 7 years. The UK government wants Brexit with the EU to be agreed within 2 years, but that might prove impossible.

 

There is no real uncertainty except what is being fed by the Brexiters with fantasy claims on what can be achieved, and the rest of the politicians allowing the bovine dung they are spreading to sit there unchallenged as they have all along.

 

Stop immigration + full access to single market?

- Rubbish

A number of the most influential EU leaders have clearly stated that is NOT an option, in addition other leaders have clearly stated they would use their veto were it offered to the UK.

No negotiating ploys or if buts or maybe's - NO it isn't an option.

 

Customs union

Customs union means EU trade arrangements with the rest of the world, EU payments and EU rules.

Services (banking/Financial etc - major UK services) NOT included.

Terrible option for the UK

 

FTA's

Maybe, and maybe not and maybe years to agree

Would almost certainly not include services (thats the elite not wanting this), farming/dairy and a number of other things.

Probably little better than WTO rules overall except for a very select few

 

So the options are fresh referendum and they hope for a clear remain vote

OR

Hard Brexit and WTO rules while other deals are negotiated (and very possibly break up of the UK occurs).

 

All the rest is fammying around waffling because the politicians dont want the sheet landing squarely on their own heads.

 

Effectively the politicians are dragging it out as long as they can hoping some rabbit will pop out of a hat - probably that another EU country will announce EU-exit and get their (our politicians) personal pork out of the center of the Barbecue.

Probably the only thing that might make a difference.

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Record low: living standards and investment

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If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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Be interesting to see what happens with the Richmond byelection.

 

Touted as a Brexit election as all the main candidates are anti heathrow expansion.

 

Tory Goldsmith has got to be favourite despite being pro-Brexit in an educated area which massively voted remain.

Sheesh the man resigned from the Tory party as he promised over Heathrow. Mind you he'll probably quietly rejoin after we wins - if he does.

 

Lib Dems - also nti Heathrow but supposedly pro remain - but not really - she came out against any fresh referendum although she is trying to distance herself from that now.

 

Labour - official labour policy is apparently no fresh referendum - as Corbym wants OUTdespite MOST of his MP's wanting to remain.

Labour, like the lid dem candidate here appears to be soft Brexit with immigration fuzzy mush that meets none of the Brexit/Bremain major issues.

 

Greens split between standing behind Labour or Libdems.

 

Tories not standing against their 'rebel' LOL

 

bit of a farce really - but it will be spun as much more, and may yet end up as much more.

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Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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There will be Civil War in the UK! ;)

 

Nothing civil about it

 

The Ricmmond byelection might be interesting if the libdems win or even come a close second ...

 

I must admit to thinking the libdems seem to be the only current option for my vote should there be a general election.

The Tory Legacy

Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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Is the Monster Raving Loony Party still in existence?, they will get mine if they are? ;)

 

No - they all moved to UKIP

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9850603/Nigel-Farage-Why-I-will-not-fight-the-Eastleigh-by-election.html

The Tory Legacy

Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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Oh God!!!

 

 

You could of course join the 'The Eccentric Party of Great Britain' which was formed partly in protest at the loonies protection of Farage.

 

For the entertainment and elucidation of the caggers here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Toby_Jug

 

(No its not me, although I have liked in drink in my time - I am not rotund, cant play the guitar, am rarely ever depressed, and my nym has two GG's)

The Tory Legacy

Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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