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Hi,

 

I'm new to this and have been behaving in a way that is incredibly stupid.

.. Please don't underestimate to the extent that I know this!

 

I have been shoplifting for the last 18 months predominantly from the same shopping centre.

I genuinely don't even know why I do it as I have 2 beautiful children and am risking everything for items I'm not even bothered by particularly.

 

Whilst it is no excuse I have been extremely depressed since the very premature birth of my eldest, which has been constantly exassabated by the birth of my second and then the break down of my marriage..

. None of which is excuses my behaviour in the slightest.

 

I was caught june'15 and given a warning and put on the stopwatch system (I think for a year).

.. I completely stopped as of then until January of this year when things got particularly bad personally and have continued to regularly do it (I know how stupid I have been!).

 

Last Friday I had brought a few items in RI and exchanged an item in boots (had a receipt) but had also taken some items from superdrug and the proceeded to go into monsoon and picked up 2 tops which I had every intention of trying on and no intention of taking.

 

I then put the items on top of my shopping bag with the hangers in the bag to stop the tops going onto the floor (they were white/cream) to try on a jacket and then as I was taking said jacket on noticed the time and that I had to go to tesco before collecting my daughter and hung the jacket up picked my bag up and walked towards the door without thinking.

 

This obviously set the alarms off and I quickly realised what I had done and turned round and gestured to the employee it was me and I was sorry and got the items out of the bag which she came over and took from me and looked at them but, said it was ok,

 

I'm not in anyway excusing my behaviour and realise I need to start addressing my issues and prioritising my children over my selfish behaviour but, now I am SICK with worry that I will have a policeman turn up at the house because this will have in some way of alerted security and they will look back at CCTV and be investigating me!

 

Please don't judge me because whilst I know I deserve it I really do know what sort of person I am!

 

I guess my real questions are how likely is this?

I have always just carried on walking if I've set off an alarm before (I know not right).

And how long will my details have been kept on stopwatch.

 

Many thanks in advance

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Hi and welcome to CAG. On here we don't judge especially as you seem to have issues beyond your control. For this I feel a visit to your GP for a chat in confidence will be a good start and your GP may offer counselling or CBT and may even offer a short course of happy pills. I ca assure you as a regular user of anti depressants, they don't turn you into a zombie.

 

As for the shoplifting, chances are that your details will be kept on file for quite some time but I am only guessing.

 

As this was from Tesco, they may have given you a civil recovery sheet from RLP. In your present state, this may affect you more than others. Please say whether they have said anything about paying a fine?

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thank you and I'm already on the case... Just seems to be taking some time!

 

Sorry, that explanation was rambling at best! I was caught last year in boots but was just given a warning from police and told by boots that I would be put on Shopwatch. There was no fine or ban. The instance in this case where the alarms sounded was in Monsoon.

 

Thank you

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The shop assistant just said "ok", to which I apologised again and she smiled and I left... There was no more said! I don't think I actually even walked passed the alarm stands just near them and I then realised what I had done. I sincerely had no intention of shoplifting them x

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Hi,

 

I'm new to this and have been behaving in a way that is incredibly stupid... Please don't underestimate to the extent that I know this!

 

I have been shoplifting for the last 18 months pro dominantly from the same shopping centre. I genuinely don't even know why I do it as I have 2 beautiful children and am risking everything for items I'm not even bothered by particularly. Whilst it is no excuse I have been extremely depressed since the very premature birth of my eldest, which has been constantly exassabated by the birth of my second and then the break down of my marriage... None of which is excuses my behaviour in the slightest.

 

Anyway to cut a long story short, I was caught june'15 and given a warning and put on the stopwatch system (I think for a year)... I completely stopped as of then until January of this year when things got particularly bad personally and have continued to regularly do it (I know how stupid I have been!). Last Friday I had brought a few items in RI and exchanged an item in boots (had a receipt) but had also taken some items from superdrug and the proceeded to go into monsoon and picked up 2 tops which I had every intention of trying on and no intention of taking. I then put the items on top of my shopping bag with the hangers in the bag to stop the tops going onto the floor (they were white/cream) to try on a jacket and then as I was taking said jacket on noticed the time and that I had to go to tesco before collecting my daughter and hung the jacket up picked my bag up and walked towards the door without thinking. This obviously set the alarms off and I quickly realised what I had done and turned round and gestured to the employee it was me and I was sorry and got the items out of the bag which she came over and took from me and looked at them but, said it was ok,

 

I'm not in anyway excusing my behaviour and realise I need to start addressing my issues and prioritising my children over my selfish behaviour but, now I am SICK with worry that I will have a policeman turn up at the house because this will have in some way of alerted security and they will look back at CCTV and be investigating me!

 

Please don't judge me because whilst I know I deserve it I really do know what sort of person I am!

 

I guess my real questions are how likely is this? I have always just carried on walking if I've set off an alarm before (I know not right). And how long will my details have been kept on stopwatch.

 

Many thanks in advance

 

Shopping centres have numerous thefts taking place on a daily basis. Unless you were stopped on the day and the Police called out, i doubt they would turn up at your house.

 

I think you know that you have to address the reasons why you are doing this and that might require you to talk to your Doctor about any cognitive behaviour therapy for depression that is available locally. You might remember the famous wealthy TV chef who got caught stealing at Tesco and he admitted to doing it on a regular basis. I think he suggested that it was probably a mental health issue, as he had no other explanation for the behavior.

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Thanks for the clarification. As you are on the shopwatch scheme, it is likely you will be monitored whenever you go into a store. You may even be followed by security staff. Not a good thing to happen. The shopwatch scheme will be all over the shopping centre just so you are aware. Chances are you will be monitored. I suspect the security guard saw something and decided to treat you lightly. They could have called the Police.

 

All I can suggest is get the help you need, keep your nose clean and over time whatever monitoring will cease- even if you are unaware of the monitoring.

 

If ever you need a 'kick up the backside', we can help with that too :-)

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I won't launch into my 'Jeremy Kyle' style sorry state of a life but, put it this way... I've recognised I have a habit of taking the least resistant route to self destruction! I am on the road to trying to sort it as i have two very important people to look after and they are far more important than the latest expensive make up.

 

I have just read a quite a few posts on here about the police tracking people to their addresses? I'm almost bordering on going in to the police station and turning myself in! X

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I've only ever been stopped by a security guard over the boots situation last year and got off a hell of a lot lighter than I should have. (I wasn't stopped last week and haven't been previously) Potentially, as I proved I had the money and offered to pay for the goods or whatever fine on the spot and was utterly devastated (although 'apparently' not enough for my own good!)

 

Thank you all again

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If the police were not involved at the time,it is highly unlikely they will now. Try not to stress too much over this (if you can) or worry about the police who have much more important things to deal with such as catching someone doing 33 in a 30MPH zone.

 

You have given yourself two very good reasons not to do this again and that (I think) should be foremost in your mind should you find yourself tempted again.

Good luck to you.

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How likely is it that they will look back at other CCTV I.e. Super drug

 

Most CCTV is kept for around a month unless it is to be used in a court case where it is secured. If every store kept every video of shoplifting whether caught or not, there would me mountains of DVDs around so I would think that other images would have been deleted by now.

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I meant the superdrug aspect of it (where I actually did take the item and wasn't stopped). Sorry I'm being a pain in the backside it's just that I've spent the sleepless nights trawling every post on here and was surprised as the number of people that have had the police turn up at their houses weeks after! Hence the constant fear?

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I meant the superdrug aspect of it (where I actually did take the item and wasn't stopped). Sorry I'm being a pain in the backside it's just that I've spent the sleepless nights trawling every post on here and was surprised as the number of people that have had the police turn up at their houses weeks after! Hence the constant fear?

 

I have only seen one case recently where the police visited so if you can link me to those threads, I would be grateful. What I would say is that in a lot of cases, the original poster doesn't come back to update us so we have to assume that no news is good news.

 

As I said, no police were involved with Monsoon, they suffered no loss as they got the stuff back. Nobody can say 100% that nobody will turn up but in the superdrug case, nothing happened to you so chances are they have deleted the video from that day.

It is my belief that once you start talking to someone, this fear you have may lessen. Once you understand more, the easier it becomes. you can take my word for that as I have had to have counselling in my past and just talking things over has a healing effect. A problem shared etc.

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It's taken me since Saturday to work out how to write a thread so that's a bit of an ambitious ask 🙈 But, there was a woman over a mascara from boots, another over a child's cost from tesco' s and a girl over some shopping in I think Sainsbury's who received a phone call! Plus a few from years a go!

 

I really appreciate all your advice and I suppose my just going to have to be honest and just face what comes at me if it does x

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Have I potentially made it worse?

what was meant to put my mind at ease has just made me feel more uneasy.

 

.. I decided to go to said shopping centre today as I've actually lost my purse and my boots card was at the police station!

 

I first went to the police station and collected my card...

No issue and they had previously contacted me about it so had my details.

 

Then I went to monsoon and inquired after my purse..

. Fine then boots to check what was left on my card

at which point my daughter asked for a drink

paid for it on my points card.

 

As we walked out she then said she was hungry so went back in again and got some food again paying on boots card.

 

As we walked through the exit two police officers walked directly towards me (heart failure!) and then passed me!

 

I then had a few other bits to do and walked back through the shopping centre.

Asked a member of security about my purse who radio'd through and apologised but it hasn't been handed in and the proceeded to leave and go to tesco's.

 

The policemen scared me witless and am now paranoid that they were going into boots as I'd used my bank card x

 

Club card even x

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no harm done

 

 

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so what

they cant do anything

if they wanted too it would have to have been at the time of the incident

 

 

and as foxy has pointed out, there was no 'loss'

for them to do anything about.

 

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Urm.. I think you'll find they are years old?

Do you mean the police?

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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