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    • Mother and father worked here and then went to SA in about 1978 returning to UK in about 1996 and worked here until 2016 when her husband died at age 66.  He was still working at the time.  She then went to live with daughter in SA.  Mother only claims for her pension. 
    • Thanks, I owe the money, no issue with that, I will SAR the company.  If I need to just pay it and have the CCJ for a few years so be it.  Just thought I'd explore all options
    • By the way you wrote that post, i can see that you are as confused by the situation as someone reading it. Important advice must be not to pay for any flights etc, until they understand the situation fully. Those that have British passports could be entitled to receive UK benefits. However, nothing is that straightforward. The passport does guarantee anything. The daughter could be entitled to Universal Credit ( which includes housing) as a British passport holder, but this can only be confirmed when she has gone through the Habitual Residency test (HRT). So you will need to read about HRT for British passport holders returning to the UK. There will be requirements to provide information about why they are returning to the UK and what work searches have they done to find work on their return to the UK. In regard to the mother who has a British passport, you will be correct in presuming that no council is going to be helpful in paying for the care home fees immediately on arrival in the UK. When did the mother last live in the UK ? When did the mother last work in the UK ? British embassy in South Africa may be able to provide information and assist with applications ? Just getting on a plane, landing in the UK and expecting help to resolve their situation, would be a silly thing to do. I can see the mother ending up in an NHS hospital for a period, while people wondered how they were going to deal with the situation. Probably not the first to do this, but if the mother also has a South African passport, they could put her on a plane back to SA and then the Daughter would be a difficult situation. Embassy in South Africa must be first place of advice.
    • There are online forums for people moving from South Africa to the UK. This is one of them.   https://moveup.co.za/2019/03/08/how-to-move-to-the-uk-a-step-by-step-guide/   If you want to speak to a social worker you could try the local council.   HB
    • This is not our issue, but an issue with a friend.  Our friend is living in South Africa and now suffers from dementia and is in a home.  The daughter has been paying for the home however the daughter was made redundant and has a child to support.  Daughter's husband keeps kicking her out of the house with the 3 year old boy and daughter had nowhere to go. The mother and daughter both have British passports.  Mother and father(now deceased) are British born, but daughter was born in South Africa.   The 3 year old was born in in South Africa.  Daughter is now broke and cannot keep the mother in a home any longer.  Daughter wants to return to the UK where she did live for several years previously so had NI number etc. however not sure what she can do with her mother.  The other issue is that the father is trying to get custody of the child so another issue. We, on behalf of the daughter who phoned us this morning, want to discuss with a social worker the options if any that may be open as on arrival here the mother will need to go straight into a home.  We can offer the daughter and child temporary accommodation with us.  Who should we contact? A very complicated scenario that normally we would not involved ourselves with as we are in our late sixties, retired and not that much money in the bank. 
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Not sure where to post this but I just had to show you the latest email from the US customs!!!!! or so they say :D

 

U.S. Customs and Border Protection

1300 Pennsylvania Ave NW, Washington, DC 20229,

United States.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Urgent Attention: Beneficiary,

 

 

I am Assistant Commissioner Kevin K. McAleenan head of Field Operations (OFO) of the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). We have just intercepted and confiscated two trunks at John F Kennedy International Airport in New York, NY 11430 coming from a foreign country.

 

 

We crosschecked the content of the boxes and found it contained a total sum of $4.1 million dollars. With one of the trunks were documents with your name as the receiver of the money. As we progressed in our investigations of the Diplomat which accompanied the trunks into the United States we learned that he was to deliver these funds to your residence as payment of an inheritance/winning, which was due to you.

 

 

Further checks on the consignment, we found out that the consignment paperwork lacked the PROOF OF OWNERSHIP CERTIFICATE AND LEGAL DELIVERY PERMIT CLEARANCE CERTIFICATE forms. We then confiscated both trunks and released the Diplomat.

 

 

The trunks According to section 229 subsection 31 of the International, Commerce Regulators Code Enforcement Guidelines, your consignment lacks PROOF OF OWNERSHIP CERTIFICATE AND LEGAL DELIVERY PERMIT CLEARANCE CERTIFICATE from the joint team of Homeland Security and therefore you must contact us for direction on how to procure the two certificates, so that you can be relieved of the charges of evading tax which is a jail offense under section 12 subsection 441 of the Tax Code. We will also be asking the IRS to launch an investigation of money laundering if you do not follow our instructions.

 

 

You are therefore required to contact me within 72 hours, at that point I will walk you through the process of clearing and claiming the money.

 

 

Failure to comply may lead to your arrest, interrogation and/or you being prosecuted in the Court of Law for tax evasion and or money laundering. You are also advised not to contact any bank in Africa, Europe or banking institution.

 

 

Yours in service,

Kevin K. McAleenan

Head of Field Operations (OFO),

U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP)

 

 

 

Goodness me I am rich!!!!!!!!!:lol:

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I would take the money and the punishment, you will get a free flight to the US that way.

I agree about not contacting any banks in Africa. Europe and ANY banking institution about this though, there are some real crooks out there.

Let us know when you start your prison sentence so we can write instagram articles on the food offered.

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This type of thing is nothing new. I can remember my Dad getting a letter through the post about 40 years ago about some money that was held in South Africa and if he sent them £50, they could investigate it further etc etc. Of course, it went straight in the bin.

 

But there are some silly people out there who read about there being a fortune that might rightfully be theirs and they send money off. I have had conversations with averagely intelligent people who have almost believed some things they have received and i have had to explain to them that it is an attempted sc*m.


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I can't believe people fall for this.

Anyway, got to go to the bank for a wire transfer: a prince in Nigeria promised me 50M dollars.

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I worry about these rwally

 

Too many people get taken in

 

Its only a matter of time before a new [problem] comes in. It won't ask for details at all but will seem just too plausable

 

Something along the lines of

 

Dear sir or madam

 

We are currently emailing all owners of uk bank accounts warning of a dramatic increase in the amount of fraudulent emails

 

Therefore in agreement with all uk banks we are as a subsidiary of action fraud contacting everyone banking in the uk with advice on how to deal with these threats

 

Please print out the attached (infected) pdf document which offers advice on how to tell genuine requests from fraudulent

 

Alternatively please visit http://www.fraud alert. Com (infected site) if you wish to access this document in other formats

 

As part of our ongoing attempts to prevent hacking of password we have teamed with (well known business) to offer a software password safe which securely stores your passwords using a four digit pass code (fake software that does store passwords but emails them to a sever based off the fact that most people will use the same 4 digit pin for their cards) which can also be downloaded from the above site

 

Signed as whatever name you like

 

It's a horrible thought but working in IT I don't think it's far off


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I'm already getting emails along those lines. Two examples:

 

Express Parcel service

 

Dear Mr.P, we have sent your parcel by Express Parcel service.

 

The attachment includes the date and time of the arrival and the lists of the items you ordered. Please check them.

Dear Mr.P,

 

this is to inform you that your Debit Card is temporarily blocked as there were unknown transactions made today.

 

We attached the scan of transactions. Please confirm whether you made these transactions.

 

No, I am not going to open the attachments as I am not expecting any deliveries nor does my bank have my email address.... Well, I did have a peek inside the debit_card.zip attachment. It contains a .wsf file (what ever that is...), and the first few lines suggest that it is a Jscript and invokes a C compiler to do something nasty.

 

Not everyone uses MS Windows :razz:


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It contains a .wsf file (what ever that is...), and the first few lines suggest that it is a Jscript and invokes a C compiler to do something nasty.

 

.wsf is a Windows Script file.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Script_File

 

Good thing you aren't using Windows.

 

When I get one of the "your Windows machine is infected, I'm from Windows support" fake calls, I either tell them I don't use Windows (using Macs and Linux), or ask "which one? - which Windows machine?" as that stumps them ..... if they say they "don't know, but it is infected", I ask them for which variant of Windows OS and the MAC or IP that has triggered the virus alert ...... hours of fun to be had.......

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i must admit i love stringing them along as well . however enough people must fall for the scams since they would not do it otherwise , i remember seeing a program where they showed what was happening it was horrific . luckily i have trained my parents to hand the phone over yo me when they call .

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When I got those windows calls (pre trueCall) I used to tell them my windows were only a year old. No matter what they said I refused to understand they weren't trying to sell me double glazing.

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i love this reaction

 

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/17/tech_support_scam_takedown/

 

wish i knew how to write something like that


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if ive been helpful kick my scales, if ive been unhelpful kick the scales of the person more helpful :eek:

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I just say "what computer" ?

 

 

Seems to get rid of them quickly enough.


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I'm adding this here as it seems to add to the thread.

 

We've just found out that a friend of ours has been corresponding with a [EDIT] who has sent him the 'restaurant overpayment [problem]' I think it's called. We're trying to persuade him it isn't kosher, but he has a new business and the money is very appealing.

 

I only have part of the email, but have found this email on sites in Europe and the US, with variations of it since 2009.

 

 

The reservation can be made on a la carte or any main course menu only within the budget of 28€ per person per meal (i.e. 56€ per person per day, no special dietary, non-smokers, no rooms/accommodation, no beverages, no beer and no wine) though we are flexible with the budget. Wine or drinks of any type will be paid immediately on request by the guests. A calculated price of our Dinner/Lunch for the fourteen (14) delegates and an estimated cost for the group based on our budget will be highly appreciated. Also, if you offer only Dinner or Lunch at your restaurant, please give us a breakdown of the total cost respectively.

 

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Gareth & Catherine Bull

23:11 (11 hours ago)

 

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Be careful with this message. This message may not have been sent by: [email protected]. Similar messages have been used to steal people's personal information. Learn more

My wife and I won the Euro Millions Lottery of 41 Million British

Pounds and we have decided to donate 1.5 million British Pounds each

to 4 individuals worldwide as part of our own charity project.

To verify,please see our interview by visiting the web page below:

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2091124/EuroMillions-winners-Gareth-Catherine-Bull-scoop-41MILLION-lotto-jackpot.html

 

Your email address was among the emails which were submitted to us by

the Google, Inc as a web user; if you have received our email please,

kindly send us the below details so that we can transfer your

1,500,000.00pounds in your name or direct our bank to effect the

transfer of the funds to your operational bank account in your

country, congratulations.

 

Full Name:

Mobile No:

Age:

Country:

 

Send your response to ([email protected])

Best Regards,

Gareth & Catherine Bull


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all adds up to spammers,


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clearly written by someone whose first language is not english and doenst live in the UK. Back in the days of fax machines we used to get badly written faxes telling us about how their relative was the late dictator of Nigeria and wanted out help money laundering etc. We used to send a fax back at night made of a loop of paper with a line drawn round it and just set the thing going and turn it off in the morning. The cost for the attempted fraudster in fax thermographic paper roll must have been huge. I know showing my age.

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clearly written by someone whose first language is not english and doenst live in the UK. Back in the days of fax machines we used to get badly written faxes telling us about how their relative was the late dictator of Nigeria and wanted out help money laundering etc. We used to send a fax back at night made of a loop of paper with a line drawn round it and just set the thing going and turn it off in the morning. The cost for the attempted fraudster in fax thermographic paper roll must have been huge. I know showing my age.

 

 

so sally do not know vat zee meeeenn in ze e-maiiilsss spaammmmmmmm


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