Gemini Parking Solutions PCN - Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park - On a motorbike.

[BigBadBeard]

Hi folks.

 

Much the same as many people here I suspect, my first post is about a Parking Charge Notice I received.

 

I'm aware this isn't a penalty charge notice.

 

I have read many different stories about Gemini but I believe mine is a little unique.

 

I and my motorbike (yes, my motorbike) received a Parking Charge Notice, stuck onto my petrol tank at the Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park.

 

Date/Time - 11/08/16 16:50

The Issue reason is "Parking in a No Parking area".

I have not appealed yet.

 

All excuses aside - those being that I was attending a job interview and could find NO parking facilities at all. Eventually I locked my motorbike up to a bicycle railing completely missing the road signs as you can see in the photo attachment.

 

I got back to my bike to find the parking charge notice on it.

 

I have till Thursday (the 14th day) to appeal to keep within the £60 reduced fee (from £100).

 

So much advice says ignore the Parking Charge Notice, but I feel my situation is quite unique.

 

What advice do any of you sages have?

Cheers in advance.

[dx100uk]

well firstly the signs mean bugger all on private land

 

don't worry about any silly time scales

 

have you pictures of the actual parking signs erected by gemini?

 

and have you received the notice to keeper yet?

[BigBadBeard]

Cheers for the swift reply.

 

The signs are visible in the picture attachment. I have added a clearer picture though in the attachments.

No notice to keeper as yet, although I haven't had the log book come through yet, the bike is a relatively new purchase.

[dx100uk]

no they are the old signs when it was still council owed?

before the area went private?

 

 

there should be signs up in the carpark ref gemini.

[dx100uk]

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?435893-Gemini-parking-solutions

[Oddfellow]

Those signs appear as though they are on a public highway, and there is no evidence of any PPC signage in the wider-angle photo. Is this private land at all??

 

 

Incidentally, since when do you need a statutory sign for no vehicles AND one for no motor vehicles????

[silverfox1961]

There should be signs from gemini parking around the area and not relying on the official sign left there by the council. There should be terms and conditions attached to anyone parking on private land. If there are no signs there can be no contract and I suspect that if there were signs there, they would state either permit holders only or No Parking which is a prohibitive staement meaning that the most you did was trespass on the land thus leaving Gemini out of the equation.

 

As it is Gemini have issued almost the same amount of tickets in the last 6 months as they did for the whole of last year. I can also find NO evidence of any court action by this company EVER.

 

Once the NTK arrives, we should be able to see this off (on the assumption of no signage)

[ericsbrother]

do not appeal,

they will then have to send a NTK out in between 29 and 56 days to claim keeper liability

and the cahnces are the wording of that NTK will be rubbish

and not satisfy the requirements of the POFA

so they are then stuck claiming from the rider,

who is unknown to them and always will be as long as you dont tell them.

 

After that they will pay someone to send out threatograms

and if it gets as far as a lawyer being paid to threaten you

 

 

it can then be explained that no liability under PoFA and the signage is prohibitive,

not a contract so you cannot owe anything for a breach of contract

as there never can be one (plenty of cases to support that)

 

 

they will have wasted about £100 by them and it will have cost you nothing.

 

Respond now and they will give you grief for years.

Edited August 23, 2016 by honeybee13
Paras.

[BigBadBeard]

Hey all.

 

Thank you so much for all your assistance.

 

I haven't appealed so no contact.

I shall follow through as many of you have stated above and let you know the out come.

 

Peace.

Greg.

[BigBadBeard]

So I literally ignored it.

 

There has been no comeback at all. I never heard from them again.

[dx100uk]

as long as you've not moved you are ok