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Guys i am worried because

 

 

today i have recieved a red letter from West Yorkshire Collection and Enforcement Centre.

i have read online that these letters are not to be ignored.

 

 

It titles 'Further steps notice'

 

it reads ' The amount you owe is £569.00

 

As you have have failed to make payment as directed, you are hereby given notice that one or more of the following steps will be taken against you:

 

Issue a warrant of control to enforcement agents to take control of your goods (which will incur additional costs).

 

Register the account in the Register Judgements, Orders and fines. (this may affect your ability to obtain credit).

 

Make an attachment of Earnings Order (for deduction to be made from your salary).

 

Make an application for benefit deductions (for deductions to be made from your benefit)

 

Clamp, remove and sell your vehicle. (this will incur additional costs.)

 

Make an application to the High Court and /or the County Court to enforce the amount outstanding.

(this may incur additional costs)

if you move to a country in European union, apply to enfore the amount outstadning in that country.

 

Note:

other steps may be taken in accordance with regulations,

including issuing a warrant for your arrest or that you are imprisoned for no-payment.

 

Payment in full of the amount stated above,

within 10 working days from the date of this notice, will cancel any further action.

Please contact this office immediately if you cannot pay as directed.

 

Appeal

You have the right to appeal to the Court against the Fines Officer's decision as set out in this notice,

You must write to us stating you wish to appeal within 10 working days from the date of this notice.

This is not a general appeal against conviction or sentence,

but only against the Fine Officer's decision to enforce the amount in the way(s) set out in this notice.

 

Please mark all correspondence for the attention of the Fines Officer.

Ser reverse for details on how to pay.

Date: 13 July 2016'

 

I have another white leaflet with it with top heading HM Courts & Tribunals Service

and in the middle is the logo with Court Fines

nd it just has further information on payments and consequences if i dont pay.

 

The thing is

this letter does not explain what this debt relates to like it just doesnt care.

Its like saying im guilty and i must pay and i have no say in the matter.

 

Please i need guidance.

I am willing to pay if this will put an end to this

but at the same time i dont want to give up at the same time as this is Completely Unjust.

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that reads that they have gotten a backdoor CCJ? and have passed it to HCEO's??

 

so, i'd go ring the court and findout what they have done

I suspect they purposefully filed it to an old address?

 

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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Sorry I dont follow what you mean..

Is this letter legit and should I be worried? The letter had so signing whatsoever. Shall I ring the court number they provided on letter? Also if it helps to mention, the last 2 letters I received were from sprat endicott solicitors with the same old instructions on paying the debt or they issue proceedings. Ive been ignoring them on the hopes they will give up but now im worried with the letter I got today.

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Looks like they got a backdoor court judgement

Can you scan it up as a PDF?

DX

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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Looks like they got a backdoor court judgement

Can you scan it up as a PDF?

DX

 

And if they have does that mean its legit and I have no right to appeal. Sure il do that now

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If you didn't get the claim form

And you haven't moved since

You can get the ccj set aside

But that's £255!!

 

Let's see this letter

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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I have not moved address and not Received a claim form

 

. the last letter i received from was from spratt endicott solicitors on 28th of June and

 

prior to that a very similar letter from them on the 10th of June.

 

I am shocked that a backdoor CCJ has been issued against me without my defence.

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That an official notice

Correct do not ignore it

 

Ring the court Monday

Tell then you never got any claim form or letters and wish to set it aside

 

Are you on benefits?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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sorry forgot to blur out the refs numbers

 

Yes I am on Tax Credit benefits.

So if I apply for a setaside do I have to pay £255? Thats alot of money to set the case back by one step. If i do get a setaside what would usually happen after and the usual outcome?

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Form ex160 I think

 

We'd need to see what the claim/CCJ said

As to the defence you'd need

 

You'll have to ring the court Monday

Get a copy of the ccj as well as enquiring/setting this aside

 

Not much more you can do till then I don't think??

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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You wont get exemption on Tax credit....but you can make application without a hearing for £100..if you get the claimants consent.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/537215/ex160-eng.pdf

 

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1. If i paid the fine will it be the end of it? - yes but the CCJ would remain on file

2. If i apply for a setaside and it is granted then is that the end of it? - quite probably

and the CCJ will be gone if you successfully defend the 'retrail' if there was one.

3. Should I present my case to a solicitor who can sort this mess out for me? IMHO NO

 

 

I have some far relatives who are solicitors so i have been thinking about it?

 

Thanks

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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well spotted stella

 

nothing to do with this gym 'debt'

 

so you must have gotten a court fine somehow?

 

speeding or something?

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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Also, as it states 'further payments to FINE officer' I doubt that letter is anything to do with Harlands and something else you have been fined for.

 

It has to be this Harlands because they did mention CCJ in their letters.

 

All my car and insurance details are on my parents address that just live up the road

so it cant be anything to do with speeding etc.

 

All my bills are paid via DD so cant be anything to do with that.

 

The only nuisance ive been getting is with this Gym nonsense.

 

Everything else is set,

I have no trouble or problems with anything else

and i never had any debts owned in the past.

 

Dont have a credit card, never took out a loan.

It has to be this Gym nonsense.

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cant be sadly

 

28th june + 7 date is early july

 

33 days before they can get a default judgement even of you totally ignore a claimform say in early july

then you'd have 28 days on top of that to pay before it shows on you file

and it would go to bailiffs

 

but its not a fine

and there are no fines that can be issued on CCJ's

so fines office is wrong too

an ofcourse the default CCJ would be issued by northants bulk

not anything to do with west Yorkshire

 

so this is something else

 

sadly you are going to have to wait till Monday and that phone call

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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All my car and insurance details are on my parents address that just live up the road

so it cant be anything to do with speeding etc.

 

you do know this is illegal and not only will you prob have to pay this

i'm gonna guess this is a speeding fine

 

but you'll also could be liable for fines from the DVLA as the address is not correct

for your driving licence nor you car reg.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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Do you reckon this is fake?

If what you are saying is true about it taking 33days minimum

then there is something very suspicious going on here.

 

 

I didn't receive a claim form and a threatening letter appears out of nowhere so soon from the 28th of June.

What does the claim form actually look like and is that also suppose to be issued by northan bulk?

 

So there is no chance of a CCJ being issued by West Yorkshire collection and enforcement?

 

I put the number they asked me to ring into google and look what comes up...

 

http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/03007909901

 

http://www.unknownphone.com/search.php?num=03007909901

 

However the first page on search result is actually www.gov.uk and it has the number on there to pay

https://www.gov.uk/pay-court-fine-online

 

As you can see the people on thread said the number is an automated and i just rang it now (2am at night) and it is.

 

It says welcome to Her Majesty....

..you will need your debit or credit card and your account number written on the notice.

..then it asks me to enter it.

 

there is no way i can find out what this all about if its going straight to an automated machine.

 

I have a gut feeling that this is a plot by Spratt Endicot solicitors

but im confused that the number is on the Gov.uk website

which makes it seem legit so im pretty confused right now.

 

Do I try ringing the number on top of the letter under West Yorkshire Collection and Enforcement Centre?

That number seems to be legit and it lead me to this page

 

https://courttribunalfinder.service.gov.uk/courts/leeds-magistrates-court-and-family-court

it has an enquiry number

Phone numbers

 

Enquiries: 0113 245 9653

Fine queries: 0113 307 6600

Fax: 0870 739 4267

Citizens Advice Witness Service: 0300 332 1000

 

thanks

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your last bit is most intuitive a you say

https://courttribunalfinder.service.gov.uk/courts/leeds-magistrates-court-and-family-court

 

id ring that 0113 307 6600 number on Monday.

 

as guessed it could well be the registered address issue for DVLA I pointed to.

 

or use the enquiries line in the link.

 

sadly I think this is legit and of your own causing re your licence and or car reg'd address being wrong

sadly that against the law.

 

certainly nowt to do with the gym issue purely co-inc.

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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Hi MU,

 

Like others, I'm convinced this has nothing to do with Spratt Endicott and the gym m/ship. You're wrong to say this is a ploy by Spratts as this is NOT how they work.

 

On 28th June, they gave you 7 days to reply or pay. So the earliest they could have filed a court claim was 7th July giving you until 26th July to acknowledge the claim.

 

Contact the office number on Monday and let us know what you find out.

 

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Guys here is the thing

 

You guys were right it was a speeding fine BUT

 

they told me it was linked to a vehicle with 'X' number at 'X' address

which is 100% not my vehicle or any previous addresses of mine.

 

Somebody has has got my name and DOB and used it on their vehicles

and the fines have been going to X address and now its come to my current address.

 

The lady on the phone told me i need to ring DVLA and ask them about this

and then write to the bradford court and have this case opened up.

 

They said they will put my case on hold for 21 days for me to do this before i get any more fines.

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well done

I've made a new thread for this rather than it being on your gym thread

just continue posting here.

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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Yh i was just going to ask to we need to move the thread now lol.

 

I rang the enforcement centre and spoke to the same polite lady on the phone

who has very kindly done the paperwork for me.

She sent an email to Bradford court before reading the letter to me over the phone.

 

the letter stated that I declare that I first knew of this matter on the 15th of July when i received the Further Step Notice

and I have nothing to do with the vehicle in matter.

 

She told me that I should be contacted within 10 days and asked to attend a hearing where I would declare my innocence.

 

I have written out a letter to DVLA asking them to remove my name the vehicle with X registration plate.

 

The only question and worry I have now is:

How will the people who have wrongly used my details be stopped?

They will get away with it and nothing stops them from putting further vehicles on my name.

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I would let the authorities deal with that one:lol:

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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