VCS/BW claimform - PCN from 1/9/2015 st Andrews retail park Hull

[Solrek]

Hey Everyone.

 

Apparently on the 1st of September 2015 i parked in a Toys R us(and a few other shops) Car Park

owned by a 3rd party parking company,

 

 

there was a 2 hour max stay and i overstayed by about 10-15minutes

(i cant confirm this but they maybe right i was shopping in toys r us with my 2 year old daughter

and u may know how slow shopping can be with a toddler)

 

Ive ignored all letters due to reading a few members replies to threads on this forum,

ive attached a letter i received apparently a few weeks ago

 

 

(ive been away on a toddler holiday for a week and abit so another letter maybe due).

 

Is there any help with this one on what i should do?

 

I hope ive entered everything you guys need

 

 

ive removed my name and address/car reg for security purposes which im sure u can understand.

 

Kind regards

Kev.

[honeybee13]

Hello and welcome to CAG.

 

Ah, BW Legal again, you'll see their name on a few threads here. I think someone else had a letter before claim the other day, if memory serves.

 

I'll move you to the private parking forum and leave you a link to follow.

 

My best, HB

[Bazooka Boo]

Ignore is the old advice, not sure where you got that from on here??

 

Ericsbrother will be along in good time to advise you.

 

I note they are still referring to the PEvBeavis case, which has no bearing on your individual issue.

 

What date did you park?.

 

What date did you receive the notice to keeper (NTK)?

 

Did you make a purchase in this store that hire this cowboy outfit?

[honeybee13]

I can't really read your jpeg, but you seem to have left a reference number on. It would be a good idea to remove this.

 

Is there any chance you could make the document into a pdf please, they work better.

 

HB

[dx100uk]

type in VCS/BW in our search cag box of the red top toolbar

hundreds of like threads already to read

 

 

dx

[Solrek]

dont know how to edit the post guys but heres the PNG as its not letting me do a PDF, any other info you request?

 

What date did you park?.

It says 1st september 2015

 

What date did you receive the notice to keeper (NTK)?

Im not sure what this even is if this is the first notice of the parking charge it was 2ish weeks after the incident

 

Did you make a purchase in this store that hire this cowboy outfit?

No we went round to look for toys for christmas, we did buy it the next day tho.

[dx100uk]

I like the which is likely comment

cheeky beggars pre empting what a judge MIGHT decide

[dx100uk]

https://cse.google.co.uk/cse?cx=partner-pub-0964707606882478:652l7hswbgv&ie=UTF-8&q=VCN/BW+&sa=Search+CAG#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=excel%20BW

[Solrek]

I've been searching and cannot find a similar scenario as these are all different places, I'm kind of worried were to go with this?

[dx100uk]

exact scenario matters not

the fact that many people have received almost the exact same letter is.

[Bazooka Boo]

Now I know why you've been advised to ignore, AFAIK these lot are out of time and there isn't any keeper liability.

 

September LAST year!

[Solrek]

Thanks for the replies everyone, its greatly appreciated.

 

A templated letter is common with any company so this isnt an issue for me,

 

 

is there a time limited on when they can do this with you stating because its last September?

 

should i ignore like the other posts advise?

 

 

and any ideas what is instore for me next?

 

Kind Regards

Kev.

[dx100uk]

those other threads reveal what 'could' happen.

you date is the same as the others

some have gone to court

others have not.

no rhyme or reason why they pick some and not others.

 

 

it is a letter ofclaim so 50/50

but whatever happens

don't GIVE IN.

 

 

not seen any here that have 'lost'

 

 

might be prudent to go take photos of signs

or browse other threads for pixs of the signs.

just incase

[dx100uk]

PS you NEED to go read those linked threads

as I cant see you have

unless you did it when not logged in?

[Solrek]

Yea ive been on my mobile while at work reading the threads, they all state saying dont ignore the claim letter, is mine the claim letter or is that the next step?

[renegadeimp]

Just ignore everything except a court claim. You could send them a rebuttal telling them their is no liability as they are well out of time, but i dont know the exact wording to use.

 

In any case, if theyre stupid enough to go anywhere near a court, you have an iron clad defence.

[Solrek]

Hey guys ive received my claim form today from BWLEGAL (VCS),

 

im working for the next week as im away from home,

 

ill check on my mobile if i can find any threads to help

but im abit worried were i go as i find alot on BW Legal but not in this sort of way?

[dx100uk]

Please fill this out please

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?465231-Received-a-Court-Claim-From-A-Private-parking-Speculative-invoice-How-To-Deal-With-It-HERE***

[renegadeimp]

Its easily sorted. Just get your hard head on and we can help. Theyre basically chancing their luck, but we have a few people here that can easily swat these pests and the claim away.

[ericsbrother]

Ok what does claimform say. Part of your defence will be that the NTK was timed out to create a keeper liability but we would rather have some more things to cause more damage and thus get them to drop the matter.

[Solrek]

Name of the Claimant - VEHICLE CONTROL SERVICES LIMITED

Date of issue – 02 AUG 2016

Date of issue - by 4pm 02 SEPT 2016

What is the claim for

– The Claimant's Claim is for the sum of £100.00

being monies due from the defendant to the claimant in respect of a parking charge notice(PCN)

issued on 01/09/2015(issue Date) at 14:20;39 at ST Andrews retail park anpr Vcs Scheme Std.

 

What is the value of the claim? £235.70

Has the claim been issued by the original creditor

or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim ? VCS LTD

 

Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Yes.

[ericsbrother]

where is St Andrews retail park? Did you respond to the initial notice to keeper that VCS sent out? Do you still have that letter?

[Solrek]

where is St Andrews retail park? Did you respond to the initial notice to keeper that VCS sent out? Do you still have that letter?

It's in Hull(East yorkshire), I haven't replied to anything as of yet, I destroyed the first few letters as I thought they were spam, wish I didn't tbh

[ericsbrother]

Is it local to you? If so get down there and photograph the signage, noting where it si in relation to the public highway, its size, size of characters on it, hight above ground, number of signs, their wording if different to sign at entrance etc.

 

Also note that they say £100 due to contract so where does the extra £60.70 come from? Answer is they make it up and hope that no-one questions it and just cough up.

Edited August 8, 2016 by honeybee13
Paras.

[dx100uk]

don't forget to ack [AOS} the claim on MCOL website

defend all

leave jurisdiction unticked

 

get a CPR 31:14 running to BW

 

see other BW claimform threads for the text of the 31:14

 

if you cant find it scream