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Last night I got a call from the police to say my daughter, who is 15, had been accused of shoplifting by a shop keeper.

 

On her way home from town she went into a shop with a friend (more of an acquaintance)

who had offered to buy my daughter a packet of crisps.

 

 

Daughter handed a packet to the friend then walked about 6 feet away to look at something else.

A few minutes later the friend then put the crisps, along with another packet, into their bag and ran out of the shop.

 

 

My daughter was a bit confused as to what was going on and started walking towards the door.

The shop staff then rushed to the door and locked it so she couldn't get out.

 

My daughter was quite frightened at being locked in a shop, at ten o'clock at night, with three men

and so was shouting at them to let her out.

 

 

The staff phoned the police who came to the shop about 20 minutes later.

The owner of the shop was phoned and said that as she was under 16,

if her mother agreed to pay for what had been taken, he wouldn't pursue the matter with the police.

 

The police who attended phoned me and explained what had happened.

I agreed that I would phone the shopkeeper the following day to discuss paying for what had been taken.

 

 

At this point, both myself and the police were told that my daughter and her friend had filled the friends bag with goods

before the friend ran off, which turns out not to be true according to my daughter.

 

The shop has cctv, and after explaining to my daughter that she had to tell me the whole truth about what happened,

and that the police would be able to see exactly what had happened on the cctv,

I am absolutely convinced that there were 2 packets of crisps involved

and that my daughter did not actually steal anything.

 

 

She may be a stroppy teenager but has always been very honest

and I can usually tell if she's trying to pull the wool over my eyes,

and she's very respectful of authority and would have caved in when the police questioned her if she'd done something wrong.

 

I phoned the shop keeper this morning and he was talking about damage to his business,

staff wages for the time they had to spend with the police, bags full of goods stolen.

I really think he's trying to pull a fast one.

 

 

He said he hadn't seen the cctv footage yet, and neither had the staff in the shop,

but he will ring me tomorrow when he's seen it to let me know how much he thinks I should pay him.

 

I know that shoplifting is a huge problem, and feel for those shopkeepers who lose out financially because of it.

I know that their income suffers, prices have to be increased to make up for losses etc etc,

so I'm not making light of the fact it was a couple of packets of crisps.

 

What I would like to ask is

does anyone know what the legal stance is as to holding a 15 year old locked in a shop?

All the shop staff saw her do was hand a packet of crisps to her friend.

 

 

She had nothing hidden on her, hadn't left the shop, yet they locked her in for around 20 minutes and she was very frightened.

 

 

Can they make me pay, for what I suspect will end up being a large amount of goods that were never taken?

The shop keeper said his cctv isn't very clear. Can I ask to see this myself?

 

Any advice would be great thanks

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unless the police formerly charged or cautioned her

you are quite within your rights to IGNORE the shop keeper.

nothing he can do..

 

 

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Agree. Totally ignore the shop keeper. He certainly cant make her pay.

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Technically, your daughter stole nothing as she had not left the premises, however that is semantics and the allegation is probably that she was guilty of joint enterprise, but it might help with a stroppy shopkeeper to understand that his own actions in locking your daughter in were potentially unlawful. However it also sounds as though the police aren't taking it any further anyway or would have secured the CCTV evidence.

 

Stand your ground, pay for the crisps if your daughter kept them, otherwise do nothing. If your daughter had no knowledge of what her friend was up to then there is nothing further to do unless perhaps make sure that she stys well away from the 'friend' concerned!

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Don't know if your daughter could put in a subject access request + £10 to secure the video evince before it is deleted?

 

Any other shop keeper consequential loss is a civil matter and would have to be resolved with litigation.

 

I wouldnt even bother. SOunds like an idiot shopkeeper.

 

OP, completely ignore it unless he wants to issue a claim, which he probably wont.

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I don't think this shopkeeper will do anything else. After all he won't be using the likes of RLP.

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The other posters here have given great advice but I am not one to let things lie.

 

I would be getting the CCTV as if your daughters claim is correct, the shopkeeper would get some flack for his lack of honesty. Also, your daughter says she passed the crisps to her friend who then put them in her bag. This would mean that your daughter had no malicious intent and as such, the shopkeeper 'could' be liable for unlawful detention.

 

I must stress this though. People lie. As much as you trust your daughter, she may be trying to minimise her involvement by telling you what she thinks you want to hear.

I used to be a stroppy teenager in my youth (I can just about remember that far back) and I lied to benefit myself. Human nature?

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