Parking Eye - PCN ANPR Capture Home Bargains Pwyhelli

[bo54col]

Visiting Pwyhelli recently when the car was parked in the Home and Bargain car Park while we shopped. We are not from the area.

 

My 4yr old son became ill, first a bout of vomit then made a mess in his trousers. We sought refuge in a local pub to clean him up. My partner had to go and buy new clothes for him.

 

Firstly, I was unaware of the private nature of the car park. I had been there 12 months before in the same car park and didn't notice, I didnt notice this time either.

 

Secondly, I was unaware we had a time limit for its use. We had shopped in Hoem Bargains, I sadly don't have the receipt now.

 

Anyway, Ive had a PCN through the post yesterday The registered keeper wasn't the driver.

 

Here is the summary as requested.

 

For tickets received through the post (Notice to Keeper) please answer the following questions.

 

 

1 Date of the infringement - 13/04/2016

 

2 Date on the NTK - 19/04/2016

 

3 Date received - 23/04/2016

 

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? - Yes

 

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? - Yes, 2 photographs.

 

 

6 Have you appealed? - No.

Have you had a response? N/A

 

 

7 Who is the parking company? - Parking Eye.

 

 

Appeals Body BPA, POPLA are on the letter.

 

 

Shall the registered keeper ignore, appear or make an offer of reduced payment. I am aware of the BEAVIS hearing ct and his that has had an effect on these charges etc.

 

Date of reduced penalty (£50) to be paid by is 03/05/2016

 

BO54COL

Edited April 24, 2016 by bo54col
error

[dx100uk]

I really do hope it doesn't say penalty charge notice

 

 

its a speculative invoice

[bo54col]

SORRY PARKING CHARGE NOTICE. NOT PENALTY charge notice.

[dx100uk]

and doesn't say this either I bet:

Date of reduced penalty (£50) to be paid by is 03/05/2016

anpr camera capture?

[bo54col]

Yes, Verbatim.

[dx100uk]

it does not use the word penalty go check.?

they cannot use that word.

and they know it

[bo54col]

it does not use the word penalty go check.?

they cannot use that word.

and they know it

 

NOPE, that was my mistake.

[dx100uk]

good glad we've got those 2 sorted out

 

so many people [and sadly the media too] confuse

the tickets private parking companies issue

which are speculative invoice for entering into a supposed 'contract'

with a council or police ticket [PENALTY CHARGE NOTICE]

which ARE fines/penalties.

 

so I gather this was an ANPR camera capture?

 

dx

[bo54col]

Yes, it was ANPR.

Two pictures of the vehicle purportedly entering and leaving the car park at times they say prove the vehicle stayed longer than allowed (90minutes).

[ericsbrother]

how long was the alleged overstay?

 

 

What sort of purchase did you make when there-

if something of substance then the store management will be more inclined to get PE to cancel.

 

The contract they are claiming is with the driver, are they likley to want to deal with this matter or do you fancy taking it on,

generally these things can be defeated but take time.

[bo54col]

Approx £20 worth of goods where bought, we don't have the receipt I'm afraid.

 

The driver is in two minds about paying the charge. I say fight it.

However, if the end result is likely to be making a payment I know what the driver will say.

 

And we overstayed (due to my son) by 40mins.

[ericsbrother]

as you have about a month to make a decision there is no rush to do anything.

 

 

First of all I would be contacting the manager of the shop you bought things at and tell them that you are being punished for spending money there and ask them to request a cancellation as you were a genuine customer and had a medical problem that couldnt be avoided that caused the overstay.

 

 

Make sure this is in writing so you have something to carry forward if that isnt enough.

 

I would never pay a charge,

I have had several cancelled by the parking co when I showed their claim was rubbish and offered them a real fight,

 

 

your situation is slightly trickier as the landlord is most likely not the retailer but that will still be the first step.

 

Next,

we need to know about the signage at the site,

whether there is a decent sized sign at the entrance and exactly what it says.

 

 

PE are generally more on the ball than most companies but their older signage is often obscured or badly placed so not good enough to form a contract. the size, position, hight above ground, illumination etc are all things to be considered so as much detail as possible.

[bo54col]

Update. This charge was paid. We did overstay, our fault.