RLP letter received today (scanned)

[tescosecurityguard]

Amount : £200, UK Supermarket.

 

I just called RLP and told them that the person who the letter is for does not live at this address any more.

 

 

I do, but there are no documents saying I live here whatsoever.

 

 

They said they will stop sending letters to this address and will begin a trace of the person's actual address.

 

 

They mentioned banking addresses or something like that.

 

 

If they do, the address they'll find is no longer owned by my family.

At this rate, this should shut them down.

 

If not - I will of course ignore them anyway.

 

Any further thoughts?

 

Thanks for your time and consideration.

2016-04-14 RLP Letter before Claim.pdf

[renegadeimp]

Easy to deal with .

 

IGNORE IT.

 

RLP cant do anything at all to you. Ever. They will say and do anything to threaten you but they cannot do a single thing legally. Jackie knows this and is getting desperate which is why she is resorting to threatening replies and letters.

 

She also cannot trace anyone as she has no right or method to do so.

[unclebulgaria67]

Don't understand your post.

 

Do you know the person the letter was addressed to ?

[tescosecurityguard]

Don't understand your post.

 

Do you know the person the letter was addressed to ?

 

it's me! Sorry I realise my post can easily be misunderstood.

[renegadeimp]

Btw, that letter is a standard form letter from them. Its worth about as much as a piece of used toilet roll.

[tescosecurityguard]

No watermark on the paper or anything - in fact, it's quite low quality. It's not even aligned entirely correctly! These muppets are laughable.

[silverfox1961]

Hi and welcome to CAG. Your post IS quite confusing as you told them the person they want does not live there anymore but then you say 'it's me' so I take it you are actually the person involved.

 

Anyhoo, I have seen many variants of that letter and my opinion remains the same as everyone else's. Ignore.

 

Please don't say you are actually a security guard who works for Tesco!

[Guest]

 

Please don't say you are actually a security guard who works for Tesco!

i wonder..

[ericsbrother]

well, they have dug themselves a bit of a hole by making this letter a lba when they know that they have no locus standi. You could report them to the MoJ and actionfraud but neither organisation will do anything about it as companies like this tend to only generate complaints from people who dont pay up and so havent suffered enough for the powers that be. Doesnt change the law, they just cant be bothered to enforce it.

[Ganymede]

You could report them to the MoJ and actionfraud

 

Why? On what basis?

[Ganymede]

Easy to deal with .

 

IGNORE IT.

 

RLP cant do anything at all to you. Ever. They will say and do anything to threaten you but they cannot do a single thing legally. Jackie knows this and is getting desperate which is why she is resorting to threatening replies and letters.

 

She also cannot trace anyone as she has no right or method to do so.

 

 

I agree to ignore it but you're wrong about not being able to trace the OP.

 

There are many companies out there that can easily trace people for around a £50 fee.

[ericsbrother]

Why?

using the Civil Procedure to coerce someone into paying monies when they have no right to make such a claim/threatenting a court claim as a method of debt collection when they have no intention of ever issuing a claim under CPR

[Guest]

There are many companies out there that can easily trace people for around a £50 fee.

hi

general q. what does such a trace involve, eg what do they look at, and what can they (legally) look at. etc

[silverfox1961]

While I (nor anyone) can confirm this, it is my view that they will trawl electoral rolls, credit reference agencies. CIFAS, social media and specialist companies that store shopping data.

 

With CRA's I feel they have an alert system in place so when a credit file is updated in the name of the 'suspect' the CRA's pass this on even though this would be highly illegal but they would try the get out of the exemption 'For the prevention and detection of crime'

Anyone can buy data from the electoral roll.

CIFAS is the fraud checking service so they would likely have some data.

Social Media. You would be surprised how much personal data is gleaned from facebook etc.

[brassnecked]

They will probably send another letter. incidentally I phoned RLP regarding what would happen to someone victim of a false alarm where tag not removed and receipt found during search, the operative would not confirm that RLP would not pursue the innocent as if they were a shoplifter as the security guard wasted time doing the search. I have a recording of the call.

[ericsbrother]

Some of these tracing companies use subterfuge to get information, claiming to DWP they are an employment agency and ask about NI number for named person of such and such address for example. Another old trick used to be phoning the police to report a suspicious vehicle (give reg no of the one they suspect is owned by target) and then use a police radio frequency scanner to listen in for the CAD/dvla details given out over the radio to nearest copper.

asking neighbours is a simple one, either do you know Mr X and does he still live in this area or asking for Mr X 2 doors away from last known address "is Mr X in? you are an old friend who hopes he is still living here and see if the helpful people say, no it is 2 doors away you want.

Hello I am a new milkman/window cleaner, do you want my services? No, can I have your name so you arent bothered again then?

All depends on how much they want to throw at it, the latter attempts may not get a name but they will get a good description

[Ganymede]

hi

general q. what does such a trace involve, eg what do they look at, and what can they (legally) look at. etc

 

I'm not 100% sure as I've never worked for one of these companies.

 

I assume they use the electoral roll etc.

[Ganymede]

Why?

using the Civil Procedure to coerce someone into paying monies when they have no right to make such a claim/threatenting a court claim as a method of debt collection when they have no intention of ever issuing a claim under CPR

 

We have an adversarial Court system and anyone can send a Letter of Claim. It would be for the trial judge to make a decision on pre action conduct if it ever got that far.

 

Otherwise the MOJ have no jurisdiction to do anything and do not regulate law firms or have any influence over the independent SRA.