P.C.P enforcement agency - Should I ignore this letter?

[Misdobo]

Hello,

I have recently received a liability notice from the P.C.P enforcement agency.

 

I was advised by my colleagues that I should ignore a parking ticket

that I recieved whilst parked on hospital grounds whilst at work.

 

I got a PCN letter sent to my house addressed to me and ignored that too.

 

Subsequently have now recieved a liability notice which has got me a little twitched.

 

Should I continue to ignore this letter or pay it?

 

I did phone the company who states it is too late to appeal

and was advised to email a company that when checked on Google

has no links to parking from what I can tell?!

 

This company has nothing to do with parking... I'm so confused???

 

I don't want to go to court which the letter states will be the next action unless I pay £100 fine?!

 

Can anyone help?

[Bazooka Boo]

Ignoring PPC's is the old advice.

 

So you had a NTD-windscreen ticket?

 

They have subsequently sent you a NTK-postal letter addressed to the keeper?

 

When did you park, and when did you receive the NTK?

 

Did you purchase a ticket at all?

 

Ringing them is as much use as indicators on a submarine, stay OFF the phone.

[ericsbrother]

first of all tell us the relevant dates of the event,

the company involved,

the date your received the letters

and who this latest missive is from.

 

Also does your employment conditions have anything to say about parking at your place of work?

 

 

Many older contracts give the person supremacy of contract

but quite a lot of Trusts dont understand their obligations to their staff

and wash their hands of the whole thing

 

 

then get a massive legal bill when the parking company sue and lose-dropping the mess in the Trust's lap.

 

Knowing about your employment terms will allow us to suggest a form of words to send to parking co

and hospital trust that lets them know they will be in big trouble if they continue to demand the money.

 

If your contract says you must obey the parking cowboys then we ahve to rely on common law,

the PoFA and contract law to beat them at their own game.

 

From now on do not telephone anyone any more,

your responses will always be in writing

and if they phone you just end the call without saying anything.

[Misdobo]

Ignoring PPC's is the old advice.

 

So you had a NTD-windscreen ticket?

 

They have subsequently sent you a NTK-postal letter addressed to the keeper?

 

When did you park, and when did you receive the NTK?

 

Did you purchase a ticket at all?

 

Ringing them is as much use as indicators on a submarine, stay OFF the phone.

 

Hi,

I had a ticket on my car and then got sent a letter a few weeks after and now the liability notice.

 

I did not purchase a ticket for my car...

.I work there and before I got to the staff carpark which I pay a monthly fee for

there was a woman giving birth in her car.

 

I just parked my car quickly to help her as I'm a midwife

and by the time i got back I had a ticket on my car.

 

The first letter I received was addressed to myself

 

I'm assuming they retrieved my details from the DVLA?

[ericsbrother]

we need DATES, TIMES, etc these comanies have to follow procedures and unless you can tell us the details we cant tell if they have followed them or not. many dont so that defeats them by their own errors.

[Misdobo]

I'm not home at present but will post dates of letters and company when I get home.

Thank you for your replies.

[ericsbrother]

That is good, keep all of the correspondence safe.

[Misdobo]

Hello,

Sorry for the late reply.

So the ticket was issued on 08/01/2016 @ 07:48

I then received the notice to keeper letter on 02/03/2016

And then the liability notice on 07/04/2016.

What other information do I need to give?

 

Hello,

Sorry for the late reply.

So the ticket was issued on 08/91/2016 @ 07:48

I then received the notice to keeper letter on 02/03/2016

And then the liability notice on 07/04/2016.

What other information do I need to give?

Also it says that the company is the enforcement agency ('the agency')

 

*08/01/2016

[honeybee13]

*08/01/2016

 

I've amended your post to say that now, Misdobo.

 

HB

[ericsbrother]

Ideally post up the ticket and the notice to keeper with your private details redacted,

such as name, car reg and the ticket reference number.

 

 

Often the NTK doesnt contain the correct information to be compliant with the PoFA to create a keeper liability

and then you can just tell the parking co to get lost.

 

What does the liability notice say?

Probably just another desk at the parking company portakabin but we need to make sure.

 

Also, have you looked at your employemnt terms

and see if it says anything about having to obey these bandits parking conditions?

 

 

What terms were offered for the contracted monthly fee and who decided them,

ie do you pay your employer or the parking co for the permit?

 

It may all seem a bit long winded

but it is best to have all of the ammunition available to win

this rather than go searching for stuff in driba and drabs to answer more

and more rubbish demands from various chancers down the line.

[ericsbrother]

who is the parking co involved?

[Misdobo]

How do I add a picture of the letter?

 

I'm techno phobe don't really use computers much I do everything on my phone.

 

I don't have the windscreen ticket I just have the 2 letters that were sent

 

The liability notice says

"Despite formal, notification, the driver of the vehicle detailed below

has failed to pay in full parking charges in respect of the below period of parking to PCP Enforcement agency

('the Agency') who is now entitled to recover the same.

 

You have been named as either the Registered keeper/named driver/hirer at the time of the event,

you are now required to pay the parking charges in full.

 

If the full amount is not paid in full wthin 28 days of the date that this notice is given

then WITHOUT FURTHER NOTICE the agency will or the agency will instruct

its recovery agents to commence court proceedings to recover the same from you.

You will incur additional charges at this point.

 

Parking charge notice number PCN: ******

Vehicle registration numbe: **** ***

Date of issue: 08/01/2016

During period from: 07.38 to the time of issue of notice at 07:48

At location:******** i********

 

In accordance with the terms of parking as defined in the signage clearly displayed within the controlled zone at the above location.

 

In order to avoid court action it is important that you make full payment of the amount stated within 28 days of this notice being given.

 

The amount of £100 is now payable."

 

There is then a warning notice about paying additional charges etc...

And a payment slip.

 

Misty

[dx100uk]

upload

[ericsbrother]

esentiaaly this is just a nasty reminder letter but it would help to know what the original NTK says as that will be the key to how to respond, if at all.

[Misdobo]

I think I have attached the letters successfully?!

 

Misty

[ericsbrother]

Notice not PoFA compliant to create keeper liability

and they have ignored the industry wide grace period so essentially they are on to a loser from the start.

 

It is common for some parking co's to put a ticket on the screen and then photograph that ticket,

remove it and then send out the letters at the relevant time

and claim the vehicle was properly ticketed to create a driver liability.

 

 

QWhy do they do this?

1) they dont want to give a discount and

2) they dont want to give people time to do their homework to challenge the matter.

 

So, what to do?

I would ignore this latest demand as it is too late for you to force them to consider the matter

(not that they ever do) and as their paperwork is flawed they are not in a position of strength.

 

 

If they write again I would be minded to send a letter denying any liability

as they havent cretaed a keeper liability ounder the PoFA because of their shortcomings.

 

Read the legislation on this,

especially paras 5-9 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012

and you will se that they have to do things in a certain manner

and the paperwork must contain specific information that this buch falls well short of.

[Misdobo]

Hi people I'm getting really worried now...

 

 

I have been sent another notification which again I ignored and now I've been sent this..

 

 

..should I still ignore???

 

I'm worried it will effect my credit..

 

 

.I need to buy a house and don't want this to jeopardise that!!!

 

Help!!!!!

Misty

[Bazooka Boo]

Been sent what?

 

It can't affect your credit file so don't even begin to worry about that.

 

Re-read EB's advice again.

[Misdobo]

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[Misdobo]

Will I have to pay if they are taking action against me???

[dx100uk]

no

last thing you need to do.

 

 

go read like threads,.

[ericsbrother]

it says notice of intended...... well I intend to go to the moon sometime soon. Obviously i am not saying how this will come about but I expect you to pay. Can you see the similarity?

[Misdobo]

I'm assuming I should pay this now I've been sent a solicitors letter asking for £160 or it will effect my credit score for 6 years if I don't pay

gladdy letter.pdf

Edited December 23, 2016 by dx100uk
letter redacted and coverted to PDF - dx

[dx100uk]

its not a sols letter

its a fake/tame solicitor same printer as the last letter

just a different bloke

at the next desk in a different coloured skirt

[Homer67]

The only thing that can affect your credit score is an unpaid debt or court/local authority/police fine - this is neither!!

 

 

You are falling for their false claims and pretense of authority where they have none.

 

 

At this stage you now ignore all unless these idiots chance their arm and actually issue a court claim

- that you must respond to, so if you get one come back here for advice.