Civil Enforcement Ltd - Letter Before Action

[alumb05]

Hi

 

I have received a 'Letter Before Action' for a parking charge where i didn't get a ticket.

 

 

This happened almost 12 months ago in a new car park at the Huddersfield Infirmary.

 

 

There are no barriers and the ticket machine isn't simple to find.

 

 

My biggest issue with this is that this 'Letter Before Action' is the first letter i have received about this

and they are asking me for £140!!

Can they do this?

 

 

I thought the fines for these types of things are about £30?

 

 

Also, the offence was almost 12 months ago,

aren't they supposed to send something to me much sooner than now?

 

Thanks in advance

[martin2006]

Yes they are and they are not fines, they are speculative invoices.

 

One of the parking experts will see this and be along to advise shortly

[dx100uk]

whos the ppc

who the letter before action..bw?

[alumb05]

Hi

 

This was sent from Civil Enforcement Ltd

 

I am assuming they must of sent a previous letter before as they claim they are refering to a matter that still remains unresolved. I haven't had any previous letters or contact with them though. Don't they need to send these letters as recorded delivery or something to prove that they have sent out the necessary letters to be able to take us to court?

 

Thanks

[dx100uk]

nope

std rubbish

[alumb05]

Hi

 

Please can you advise what my best course of action should be? Should i write back to them to say this is the first letter that i have recieved from them? If the fine was more reasonable i would just pay it to end the hastle but £140 is a bit steep!

 

Thanks

[dx100uk]

fine?

[alumb05]

Yep, they are saying i have an outstanding debt of £140

(i am just calling this a fine but maybe that is the wrong terminology?).

 

 

The date of the incident is 31/03/2015 which is now over a year ago

although they sent the letter on 21/03/2016.

 

 

I am just trying to understand what is best for me to do about this

as how can i defend this now it is a year later,

 

 

since then they have probably changed all the signs (if they have any!),

added extra payment meters in the car park etc.

 

 

From the sound of the letter i would assume they have previously tried to contact me

but i have never recieved anything and now they are making threats of court action if i don't pay £140!

[dx100uk]

go back to post 1

re read your thread

then

read these...

 

 

https://cse.google.co.uk/cse?cx=partner-pub-8889411648654839:6449422593&ie=UTF-8&q=Civil+Enforcement+Ltd+&sa=Search+CAG&gfe_rd=ssl&ei=Qpj-VvaMKI_CaKHzrZgF#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=Civil%20Enforcement%20Ltd&gsc.page=1

[renegadeimp]

Basically, ignore them. You dont have to pay a single penny as they havent followed the rules or law.

[ericsbrother]

CEL are crooks, nothing else. If you want to respond just write back and say that they have failed to comply with the PoFA and there is no keeper liability so any claim will be defended and treated as vex and full costs recovery sought.

Dont add or subtract from this simple response.

[alumb05]

Hi

 

Thanks for all the responses. I will respond to them exactly as you have suggested.

 

What is vex?

 

Thanks

[martin2006]

Vexatious as in a claim