Car Parking Partnership Civil Parking Notice**CANCELLED**

[TimmyH56]

Hi Folks

 

 

We share a car park with another business that doesn't open every day but when they do, their visitors use our spaces as well as their own. We normally park in the adjacent car park where there are always spare spaces then when some our guys go out on the road, we move into our own spaces. I parked in one of the spare spaces at 8.55am and then went down around 10.30am to move it and someone had ticketed me. Copy of both sides of the ticket are attached. The signs around the car park all refer to a "Master Sign" at the entrance which is a quarter of a mile away, obscured by a sign as you drive in and if you stopped to read it you would cause an accident. Photos of the master and small print on the master attached in another post.

 

 

Can you help ?

[TimmyH56]

Master sign and small print photos attached

[martin2006]

hi and welcome to cag, i'm not well conversed with private parking but someone will be along to advise soon

[armadillo71]

Do not contact CPP. Wait for the NTK through the post and we will go from there.

 

There's a lot wrong with the NTD and the signage...

 

For starters ' incorrect use of bay ' is not one of the terms that can be breached on the master sign.

 

The NTD actually lies by stating the driver is required to pay or appeal under the POFA 2012.

[ericsbrother]

agree, the ticket does not mention nay of the contractual conditions so sloppy and unenforceable. Wait for the NTK to arrive and see what that says, chances are they will get something wrong which negates any contractual obligation. Also the use of PO box numbers for showing the service address of a limited company is a no-no. Must be proper address so again all to your benefit.

Usually the signage at the entrance to the site makes reference to core terms that are on ther signs so again no contract, this time the small signs refer to the main sign so you have to read that sign for the contract. This is correct so then the position, size and clarity of that sign become crucial.

[silverfox1961]

Hi and welcome.

 

I fully agree with Armadillo here. You are under no obligation at all to reply to them and for them to say 'required' is misleading.

 

wait for the Notice to Keeper to arrive then you can appeal to CPP first and when they reject you (which they surely will) they will give you a POPLA code to take to 'indepandant' appeal

 

Under no circumstances name the driver. Always say 'The Driver'

 

The NTK should arrive between 29 and 56 days after the event.

 

Just did a check and CPP have taken no one to court in 2015

[TimmyH56]

Many thanks folks, I'll await the NTK

[TimmyH56]

Hi again folks

 

 

NTK now attached

[silverfox1961]

well, as they have put a reason down which doesn't apply, you could continue to ignore them. There are still no court cases listed for this company so that shouldn't be a worry.

 

IF you want to cause them to lose money, you could appeal to them first using any reason you can think of as they will automatically reject you and issue you a POPLA code. This is where it costs them money as they have to pay POPLA to assess the appeal and at no cost to you. Even if the appeal went their way, they would still have to instigate legal action to get it and there is no guarantee of a win, especially with a term that is not on the main board.

[ericsbrother]

"incorrect use of a bay"? Does this bay have a sign telling you EXACTLY what the incorrect use is? No? well then, they cant ticket you accordingly. Usual dumb attempt to get money when none is due.

[TimmyH56]

Result !!!

 

 

[silverfox1961]

Cool They probably knew they were stuffed anyway so cut their losses. It is all a game to these companies anyway.

 

I will mark this thread as 'cancelled'

[zydeco]

Well done!

"gesture of good will" = you rumbled us so we'll go away

what did you put in your appeal?

[ericsbrother]

OOOh are they threatening you about their unenforceable contracts? Huh, they are wrong and know it but hope that you will somehow start to believe their lies if they say them often enough.