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    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
    • Massive issues from Scottish Power I wonder if someone could advise next steps. Tennant moved out I changed the electric into my name I was out the country at the time so I hadn't been to the flat. During sign up process they tried to hijack my gas supply as well which I made it clear I didn't want duel fuel from them but they still went ahead with it. Phoned them up again. a few days later telling them to make sure they stopped it but they said too late ? had to get my current supplier to cancel it. Paid £50 online to ensure there was money covering standing charges etc eventually got to the flat no power. Phoned Scottish Power 40 minutes to get through they state I have a pay as you go meter and that they had set me up on a credit account so they need to send an engineer out which they will pass my details onto. Phone called from engineer asking questions , found out the float is vacant so not an emergency so I have to speak to Scottish Power again. Spoke with the original person from Scottish Power who admitted a mistake (I had told her it was vacant) and now states that it will take 4 weeks to get an appointment but if I want to raise a complaint they will contact me in 48 hours and it will be looked at quicker. Raised a complaint , complaints emailed me within 24 hours to say it will take 7 days till he speaks with me. All I want is power in the property would I be better switching over to EON who supply the gas surely they could sort it out quicker? One thing is for sure I will never bother with Scottish Power ever again.    
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A friend of mine posted a picture he'd taken of a billboard in Scotland advertising 'Legal Name Fraud'

and as curiosity bested the two of us we went googling...

 

Just wondering if anyone actually takes this seriously?

I note that the last time someone tried the 'freeman on the land / legal name' thing with a Judge

he jailed her for nine months for contempt (http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Fam/2011/B15.html).

 

In the dim and distant past as a CAB worker I had someone come in complaining

that he couldn't get a passport to go on holiday because he'd renounced his 'legal name'

and the passport authority wouldn't print one with his 'Joseph of the family Terminally-Misguided-Bloggs' on it

and his rights were being breached because the nation he'd renounced were stopping him from going to Benidorm...

 

So my question is, what is the purpose of this?

Is it an attempt to confuse less than confident police officers / court officials?

Is it a genuinely held belief that people are beyond the law?

Are people daft enough to think that they can simply opt-out by changing their name?

 

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From some of the posts I have seen, it is a way of avoiding council tax / national taxes and the FOTML's right to do pretty much as they please without government interference.

 

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In the dim and distant past as a CAB worker I had someone come in complaining that he couldn't get a passport to go on holiday because he'd renounced his 'legal name' and the passport authority wouldn't print one with his 'Joseph of the family Terminally-Misguided-Bloggs' on it and his rights were being breached because the nation he'd renounced were stopping him from going to Benidorm...

 

My view on this: If he had renounced the nation of his birth, he also gave up the right to hold a passport of that nation, ergo, no breech of human rights. That said, he probably deserves the title of Terminally Misguided.

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FOTL is a club for nut cases, they heard something said by someone and believe it because a friend of a friends mates uncle said he didn't have road tax and they can't make him buy it..

 

One of the big leaders of this stupidity is David Icke a man who thought, (and still does) that he was some sort of messiah and everyone would bow down before him.

 

I say to these FOTL fools the same thing Terry Wogan said to David Icke in an interview, "the world is laughing at you, not with you".

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So has anyone here actually looked into this yet, or are these all just closed opinions.

 

So far, as I have been able to understand from Googling it, it has to do about a fraud being revealed.

 

Fraud is simply a knowing attempt to deceive another to steal from them.

Plain and simple, a fraud is hidden theft.

 

And as I further went down this rabbit hole, I discovered that not only is the Birth Certificate a bond on the stock exchange

(and is how money/debt is created into the Legal system), it is also Crown Copy-right.

 

I found this interesting that the Crown has a copy-right on these titles

and to think that not only did I not ever in my life sign the birth certificate,

like you would with other things, such as (ie Licences, passports, bank account etc...).

 

So that would mean, in contract law, and copy-right law, if I was not the creator/author of this creation,

or party to it as not signed it, That would mean this Birth Certificate has nothing to do with me.

And by using it, would place me as a 3rd party interloper. And that's illegal.

 

As far as I can tell, it isn't about going to court like a freeman on the land scenario,

cause then your just asking for trouble, using that BC and all, it's about a fraud being revealed

and not using it any longer to exit the system all together.

 

Which then makes me wonder, what to do when you out of Legal system, and how to live?

I guess it would be hard to fathom on what will happen to people who live without a Legal name

, but my guess is it would be a lot better than living in this one way, their way Legal religion.

 

Any thoughts?

 

P.S. Also I found this document which explains CROWN copy-right 1998, and what is deemed property of the CROWN.

 

 

Google "Crown Copy-right in the information age"

See bottom of page 29 and 31 regarding what is registered CROWN property.

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I'm still not sure if you are saying ;

A) you believe the FMOTL approach is valid or

B) you believe the FMOTL approach is "snake oil", peddled by (at best) misguided individuals.

 

Since the FMOTL'ers rely so much on the significance of the common law as it applies to contract law, I'd be asking any of them if:

a) they believe a contract has to be written

b) if not and they accept a contract can be verbal or implied

c) if they use local and central government services (the NHS, roads kept at public expense, rubbish collections and such like)

d) don't they have to pay, or are they a bunch of freeloaders?

 

Mind you, I wouldn't expend too much energy on them / their ideas.

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think about it, please go and sit on the naughty step as this thread may cause some irritation in the FOTL community and they may want to come here and defend their 'misguided' views thereby causing CAG much grief.:razz:

 

 

Anyone can change their name. It's called a Deed Poll or even a simple Statutory Declaration would do. All that is requires is that you notify the relevant bodies/people.

 

If a passport holder refuses to acknowledge that the name on the passport is theirs then that would raise suspicions (more especially now that terrorists are more prevalent)

FOTL believers think they are allowed to opt out of anything they don't believe in. OK then, just stop using the roads, putting your bins out for the rubbish to be collected, stop using the utilities available, give up working as you won't want to be taxed on your wages and don't claim any benefits available to law abiding citizens.

 

As for the birth certificate being used as a bond to raise funds. Laughable. Crown Copyright just means that the Government hold the rights to the form and format of the birth certificate, not a person then belonging to the Government.

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think about it, please go and sit on the naughty step as this thread may cause some irritation in the FOTL community and they may want to come here and defend their 'misguided' views thereby causing CAG much grief.:razz:

 

But wait,

I didn't sign a naughty step contract and Think About It is just a legal fiction of a straw man of a fraudulently created legal name whose birth certificate is now worth £tens of thousands, but only costs £10 to get a new one who is also a human being and a person. I refute the existence of your naughty step, the berber carpet that covers it and its legal place in the universe under marine law.

 

So there...

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But wait, I didn't sign a naughty step contract and Think About It is just a legal fiction of a straw man of a fraudulently created legal name whose birth certificate is now worth £tens of thousands, but only costs £10 to get a new one who is also a human being and a person. I refute the existence of your naughty step, the berber carpet that covers it and its legal place in the universe under marine law.

 

So there...

 

:lol::lol:

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But wait, I didn't sign a naughty step contract and Think About It is just a legal fiction of a straw man of a fraudulently created legal name whose birth certificate is now worth £tens of thousands, but only costs £10 to get a new one who is also a human being and a person. I refute the existence of your naughty step, the berber carpet that covers it and its legal place in the universe under marine law.

 

So there...

 

Absolutely. However you have berthed / birthed the name "think about it" aboard the good ship CAG, and are now subject to maritime law : this leads to some good news and some bad news.....

 

Good news : you can claim you don't have to pay Council Tax, and thumb your nose at police officers telling them "I don't consent!"

 

Bad news: you'll still end up paying council tax, and the coppers can still nick you regardless, although they might not if they decide you aren't worth the hassle!

 

Could be Good news, could be Bad ....... Maritime law? Remember what Churchill supposedly said about the RN;

http://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,,-1433,00.html

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Absolutely. However you have berthed / birthed the name "think about it" aboard the good ship CAG, and are now subject to maritime law : this leads to some good news and some bad news.....

Are keel hauling and flogging still options open to the captain of the ship as punishment for transgressions ?

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Are keel hauling and flogging still options open to the captain of the ship as punishment for transgressions ?

 

Captain or Master?

 

On a distinct note : the person in overall command of a ship is its Master. Master is also a judicial appointment.

 

https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/about-the-judiciary/who-are-the-judiciary/judicial-roles/judges/high-ct-masters-registrars/

 

So, by the convoluted twaddle of FOTL this must represent absolute proof they are correct!.

 

(Master is also a title given to a young male child, so does that prove FOTL'ers behave like petulant children?)

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Great stuff. Now all I have to do is find an uninhabited island somewhere and hope I don't get swine flu

 

No need. Just go back to Skaro!

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As is the Flu but at least you can vaccinate against the worst strains :)

 

I keep seeing startling displays of utter nonsense, my most favourite being a police officer dragging one such idiot out of his car whilst he screams 'I don't consent' repeatedly like some magic incantation to make the nasty policeman disappear. Of course, it didn't work...

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This 'story' is gaining ground

 

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These have been springing up near me too on the south coast.

When i immediately read it my mind cast straight to FOTLM.

 

When will these muppets ever learn :lol:

 

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These have been springing up near me too on the south coast.

When i immediately read it my mind cast straight to FOTLM.

 

When will these muppets ever learn :lol:

 

Erm! That'll be never then :smile:

 

Just to make my position clear. Anyone that spouts FOTL in any form are complete and utter nutters

 

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The plan is to develop the site so that we can provide more options and more legislated advice to our visitors by becoming FCA guided

 

In order for us to achieve this, we need to have a legal team conduct full checks through the website and give us the seal of approval, this is the majority of the finance and as the site currently stands will be quite a chunk of the costs.

 

 

The remainder of what we raise will go on the development of the site

 

 

 

Their plans are in complete disarray and cannot be achieved. Almost a month since the 'Crowd Funding' appeal was set up they have only managed to extract £2,600 from their 'supporters'.

 

This is of course not in the slightest bit surprising given that site visitors are mainly those wanting to seek ways of AVOIDING having to pay anything.

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