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    • Thank you for your reply, DX! I was not under the impression that paying it off would remove it from my file. My file is already trashed so it would make very little difference to any credit score. I am not certain if I can claim compensation for a damaged credit score though. Or for them reporting incorrect information for over 10 years? The original debt has been reported since 2013 as an EE debt even though they had sold it in 2014. It appears to be a breach of the Data Protection Act 1998 Section 13 and this all should have come to a head when I paid the £69 in September 2022, or so I thought. The £69 was in addition to the original outstanding balance and not sent to a DCA. Even if I had paid the full balance demanded by the DCA back in 2014 then the £69 would still have been outstanding with EE. If it turns out I have no claim then so be it. Sometimes there's not always a claim if there's blame. The CRA's will not give any reason for not removing it. They simply say it is not their information and refer me to EE. More to the point EE had my updated details since 2022 yet failed to contact me. I have been present on the electoral roll since 2012 so was traceable and I think EE have been negligent in reporting an account as in payment arrangement when in fact it had been sold to a DCA. In my mind what should have happened was the account should have been defaulted before it was closed and sold to the DCA who would then have made a new entry on my credit file with the correct details. However, a further £69 of charges were applied AFTER it was sent to the DCA and it was left open on EE systems. The account was then being reported twice. Once with EE as open with a payment arrangement for the £69 balance which has continued since 2013 and once with the DCA who reported it as defaulted in 2014 and it subsequently dropped off and was written off by the DCA, LOWELL in 2021. I am quite happy for EE to place a closed account on my credit file, marked as satisfied. However, it is clear to me that them reporting an open account with payment arrangement when the balance is £0 and the original debt has been written off is incorrect? Am I wrong?
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Hi All,

I am trying to get any information possible on the removal of Settled Accounts that were in good standing

from the main credit agencies.

 

I used a well known payday loan company back in 2013 and rolled over the loan a few times and always paid early and in full. Never late and no negative info at all.

 

However fast forward 3 years , I am trying to secure a mortgage and have been refused due to having 6 entries from a specific payday loan lender. Even though they are all settled and paid and closed they underwriters see that as there were 6 entries, that I am a risk !!

I have a good credit score and this is the only negative.

 

This is causing me to have to look through other "brokered" lenders who all want to charge fees and I am looking at a higher interest rate also. It crazy that I borrowed and paid back on time and still penalised for it.

 

Can any one give me any advise on how I can persuade the payday lender to remove the settled accounts from my files??

As its causing me financial issues if I have to pay a higher interest rate because of them. Any help appreciated.

 

Thanks

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Oh dear, sadly, even if you repaid your PDL loans on time, never defaulting - your credit history will still be trashed for 6 years. Simply having borrowed from a PDL is like the kiss of death - mainstream lenders will wonder why you needed to borrow from them in the first place and not from a mainstream lender !

 

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cardsloans/article-2514436/Will-using-payday-loan-really-ruin-chances-getting-mortgage.html

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Wonga pretty much sold its loans on the back of improving your credit score - this is simply not true.

 

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/loans/2012/11/wonga-payday-loans-do-wonders-for-your-credit-rating

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if I had known then what I do now I would never had gone that route !! I read somewhere that it maybe possible to use section 10 of the data protection act about if the data causes damage or distress then maybe it can be removed ?? So if I'm having to pay higher interest rates because of the data reported then maybe that's is an option ?? Anyone ever tried this ??

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no TBH section 10 is a biy of a myth and very old hat.

 

 

yo indicate you had numerous loans and rolled them?

 

 

why not try the irresponsible lending complaint route?

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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no TBH the effects section 10 is a bit of a myth and very old hat.

 

 

yo indicate you had numerous loans and rolled them?

 

 

why not try the irresponsible lending complaint route?

 

 

dx

 

Thanks pls can you advise what that is as I have not heard of this ? Any template letters at all ?

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Thanks pls can you advise what that is as I have not heard of this ? Any template letters at all ?

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?455382-Were-you-caught-in-a-Pay-Day-Loan-Trap-You-may-be-able-to-make-a-claim

 

Have a read of the link above - there are no template letters as each situation is different - however if you would like to draft something and pop it on the forum, we can proof it for you.

 

It would appear in your case you have taken loans out on the understanding that they would improve your credit standing. This is obviously not true and as you took your borrowing seriously, repaying on time - no defaulting, you believe you have been misled and would like the PDL history removed from your credit files.

 

I think there might have been a similar situation just recently, I will have a look and see if I can find a link.

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thanks cb.

 

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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what i have found with the complaints I rasied with FOS is that they tend to request the removal of all loan refs but keep at least the first 2 or 3

bare in mind that even if you do go down the irrisponsible lending route and get success with FOS they are unlikely to recommend the removal of all references with the CRA's
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what i have found with the complaints I rasied with FOS is that they tend to request the removal of all loan refs but keep at least the first 2 or 3

 

Thanks for the advice Neil, did you go down the irresponsible lending route to get removed ??

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OH yes indeed - considering a lot of mine were just 3-4 loans, the FOS still decided to go with irrisponsible lending as the loans were pretty much running at the same time, FOS said in most cases paying the loans back on time did not show affordability

 

That's great info Neil thanks. Did you go to the lender first of straight to the FOC ?? I have had only 1 reply from the lender and emailed and written lots. Think I am being ignored now.

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sample letter;

Mr Lender

Suite 105W,

Sterling House, Langston Road,

Loughton, IG10 3TS

Formal Complaint and Notice of Action

Reply required within 31days

To whom it may concern,

NOTE – FULL ONGOING COMMUNICATION IS TO BE VIA EMAIL, I WILL NOT ACCEPT ANY OTHER FORM OF COMMUNICATION – THIS IS SO THAT REPLIES AND ONGOING CORRESPONDANCE CAN BE QUICK AND ALLOW FOR A FASTER RESOLUTION – YOU CAN EMAIL ME AT

I am writing to you with regards to the loans taken out with Mr Lender, details of the loans and dates of which are provided below

Date Taken

Lender

Loan Amount

Close Date

Account No.

 

Mr Lender

 

 

 

 

Mr Lender

 

 

 

 

Mr Lender

 

 

 

All loans where taken at my previous address,

My complaint is that Instant Mr Lender provided me with the loans even though my credit history at that time, which was available on all the major credit reference agencies, failed to ensure that due diligence was used when providing the loans. Should Mr Lender have carried out even the basic level of credit reference checks it would have been clear to Mr Lender that I not only had a very poor credit history and score but was also at the time the loans were provided, in debt with other lenders and that your checks and procedure fell well short of ensuring that by providing me with these loans that I was in a strong enough financial position to repay them without affecting any other financial commitments I had at that time.

In affect Instant Mr Lender should not have provided me with any loan.

I hereby request that you refund all interest and default charges for these loans and in addition you include an 8% pro-rata interest payment to this refund.

I have attached a file below showing my credit commitments at the time that the loans by Mr Lender were provided to me, providing a clear view as to how heavily in debt I was at that time

Furthermore as the loans should not have been provided you are to remove all entries from my credit file/s.

Should you fail to reply within the requested time then without fail a complaint will be made with the Financial Ombudsman Service.

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