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    • Just out of interest, how long did it take you to formulate this conclusion? I'm not looking for a particularly accurate answer, just round it up to the nearest nano second.    How is this going to work then?   Where are the medical personnel and laboratory staff required to undertake this massive project going to come from? Now this is just a stab in the dark but I'd imagine they'd be quite busy at the moment.   Even South Korea, who are recognised as having one of the most aggressive testing policies have only managed to test 1% of their population. You clearly have no conception as to the scale of what you're proposing.   Even if it was possible to plan, organise and execute it would take years to achieve, by which time all the data would have been redundant and completely meaningless. I was tested last week and it took 2 days for the result, which by the time I received it was already out of date as I was then and now just as likely to be infected as I was when I took the test.   Think about it.    
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Legal Professional Privilege is this now under threat?

 

 

What with the new interception powers (RiPA) and more, the Legal profession are concerned that legal privilege maybe under threat.. See here >> http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/news/press-releases/lawyers-call-for-statutory-protection-of-lawyer-client-communications/

 

 

'Lawyers are under a legal and professional duty to keep their clients’ affairs confidential. But LPP is particularly important because it prevents a third party – including a state official – from gaining access to and making use of lawyer-client communications without the client’s knowledge and consent.'

 

In October 2015 the Law Society said this >>

 

 

'Joint press release from the Law Society and the Bar Council

The statutory protection of legally privileged communications between lawyers and their clients should be high on the agenda when parliament debates major new surveillance legislation next month. The Bar Council and the Law Society have called for legal professional privilege to receive statutory protection in the forthcoming Investigatory Powers Bill.'

 

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Intelligence agencies must not be allowed to spy on communications between clients and their lawyers. When you are defending yourself against the state or find yourself in a dispute against a public authority, it would be grossly unfair for them to listen in on conversations with your lawyer.

 

'We have seen too many examples of prosecutions wrecked because it was found that a public authority had eaves-dropped on a conversation that should have remained private.

 

So are they only asking for exemption for those cases that involve the state or public authority ?

 

Surely legal privilege is just that and ALL conversations between a solicitor/ barrister etc, and their clients should not be eavesdropped ?

 

Having said that, aren't GP's now being forced to provide third parties with extremely confidential information?

 

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Bulk interception of communications or retention of communications data is questionable in a democratic society, but if such powers are approved by parliament, there should be special provisions to protect privileged communications between lawyers and their clients.

 

Make it harder for government to do - start writing letters and talking face to face with people rather than electronically by email / telephone !

 

We have been slowly seeing our privacy and freedoms eroded by government (whichever breed is in power) for many years now and no one seems to speak out.


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