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    • I'm trying to understand it all but I certainly tend to agree with my colleague @dx100uk that it looks as if you may have been taken for a ride. You found an advertisement for a bag on an online sales site. Instead of going through the established procedure of that site, which presumably allows them to recover a commission from the seller you started dealing directly with the seller who is an unknown person to you and of course that allowed the seller to avoid paying the commission. At whose suggestion was it that you went off-site? You then pay by PayPal but instead of logging it with PayPal as a payment for a purchased item, you tell PayPal that it was actually simply a gift or transaction between friends and family. This also allowed the seller to avoid paying a PayPal fee on the money. At whose suggestion was it that you paid in this way?       I don't say that you definitely have been scammed, but it doesn't look very good. This is how it might have happened: after you agreed to take the transaction off-site, so you lost the protection of the established system – and the seller avoided the commission and also avoided the sales site knowing that they had sold their item, you then agreed to pay the seller some money – but not for a purchase – simply as a gift. This has two consequences. Firstly, the seller avoids a PayPal fee and secondly, because PayPal has been misled as to the purpose of the payment, you lose the protection of PayPal if it turns out that you've been scammed or there is some other problem with the transaction. The seller then apparently sent you the parcel and they sent you pictures of a package with your address on it. Separately they sent you a Hermes tracking number – but there is no evidence that the package was actually posted to your address. The seller might simply have taken a picture with your address and sent that to you by way of reassurance – and then changed the label and posted the parcel to themselves but sent you a tracking number which is inaccessible to you and in respect of which you will be prevented from getting any information. All you've seen is a parcel with your address on it. All you've been given is a tracking number which satisfied you for a while until the parcel did not arrive and then when you started to make enquiries, you found that you were unable to access any details referring to the tracking number. Of course the tracking number says that the item was delivered – because maybe it was – but in that case it was delivered to the address on the parcel which might have been the seller's own address – or the address of a friend. I don't want to say that this is definitely how it happened, but it is a plausible scenario. Of course Hermes is an awful lot of parcels – but on the other hand I expect that most of the parcel is that going to Hermes hands are delivered successfully. We only get the bad stories on this forum. I can imagine that Hermes rate of successful deliveries is better than 97% because otherwise people wouldn't simply just hate them, they would go out of business.   We can help you bring a complaint against Hermes if you want. However, on the basis of what you say, the odds are stacked against you but it would be useful to try and find out the address which was associated with tracking number. As far as your apparent willingness to travel hundred and 50 miles to ask for your money back, don't bother. If you did actually go there, are you sure that the seller actually lives at the address that you have been given? What evidence do you have that? Of course if you found that the seller didn't reside at that address then it is slamdunk that you have been scammed. But then what are you going to do? You can try to inform the police but of course it won't get you anywhere. You can inform the sales website – but they will say that you brought it on yourself because you agreed to go off-site. You can inform PayPal – that they will say that because you sent the money which was calculated to avoid their fees, you have lost the protection. If you travelled the 150 miles and found that the seller did reside at that address, do you really think that they are going to hand your money over to you? If they are acting dishonestly then they will simply say that it is nothing to do with them, that they addressed it all correctly and they don't understand what has happened and that this is simply Hermes up to their old tricks. What are you going to do? You simply risk getting into a very nasty argument and depending on how bad it went, you might even find that the police are called and I'm afraid that they would be looking at you – not the seller. Maybe you can answer the questions that I've post above as to who it is who initiated the various ways of doing business.    
    • The legal campaign's going well then. The recount in Wisconsin gave Trump more votes but Biden even more, at a cost of $3m. And a donor to the organisation bringing the failed cases is suing to get his $2.5m back.   https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/28/joe-biden-gains-votes-in-wisconsin-county-after-trump-ordered-recount
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The wealthiest 62 people have as much wealth as that of half the worlds population combined:

 

 

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jan/18/richest-62-billionaires-wealthy-half-world-population-combined

Why the populist problem with customs checks to cross the Irish sea to meet International agreements and Law

... when Johnson is happy to implement a Border + Visas to access a lorry park in Kent?

 

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

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I was just about to add a thread about this.

 

I am not anti capitalist, as i believe it is probably still the best system. What i am against is concentration of wealth, tax avoidance/evasion and corruption with politicians/political parties undermining democracies.

 

Some of these very wealthy people do give their money away, which is great. But that is not the point. Ideally, you want to spread wealth, by taxing wealth and having governments actively involved in economies. Governments could be investing money in building large numbers of houses. They could be offering more start up money to new businesses and investing in existing businesses, so that there is more activity going on, generating wealth for more people.

 

This is something Jeremy Corbyn could get Labour to address, if they did not have many other policies which many people don't like.

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I am not anti capitalist, as i believe it is probably still the best system. What i am against is concentration of wealth, tax avoidance/evasion and corruption with politicians/political parties undermining democracies.

 

+1

 

The richest outside these 62:

 

"About 123,800 individuals of these have more than $50m,

and nearly 45,000 have more than $100m.

The UK has the third-highest number of these “ultra-high net worth” individuals."

Why the populist problem with customs checks to cross the Irish sea to meet International agreements and Law

... when Johnson is happy to implement a Border + Visas to access a lorry park in Kent?

 

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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Might be why we slightly like criminals who break into banks and safety deposit vaults. It is not purely about how clever the crooks are, but taking the valuables from wealthy people, some who seek to hide millions or paperwork that might be embarrassing. Apparently, some of the owners of the Hatton Garden boxes have not been willing to detail the content of the boxes.

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World's richest lose some cash http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/the-world-s-richest-people-lose-305bn-in-one-month-as-stock-markets-plunge-a6817161.html

 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35339475

 

According to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, the billionaires saw more than $115bn slip out of their hands this week alone, with seven of them losing more than $1bn on Friday.

 

Amazon.com Inc. founder Jeff Bezos reportedly topped the Bloomberg index list, losing out on $8.9bn since the start of the month, and a further $1.9bn on Friday.

 

 

There's something odd going on with such concentrations of wealth.

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The 'slips in their wealth are probably due to the stock market falls. So are temporary losses on paper only unless they are normal people who need to 'realise' their assets - which they rarely would ever be.

Why the populist problem with customs checks to cross the Irish sea to meet International agreements and Law

... when Johnson is happy to implement a Border + Visas to access a lorry park in Kent?

 

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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The wealthiest 62 people have as much wealth as that of half the worlds population combined:

 

 

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jan/18/richest-62-billionaires-wealthy-half-world-population-combined

 

Good luck to them, they deserve every penny. Awful thing jealousy.

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Why the populist problem with customs checks to cross the Irish sea to meet International agreements and Law

... when Johnson is happy to implement a Border + Visas to access a lorry park in Kent?

 

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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Why the populist problem with customs checks to cross the Irish sea to meet International agreements and Law

... when Johnson is happy to implement a Border + Visas to access a lorry park in Kent?

 

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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The loss of billions on the stock market says a lot about how wealth is calculated as nearly all of these super rich are only rich by having shares in companies that dont really show a real profit. If I were one of them I would be doing a bit of cash in hand car valeting just to have some real money in my pocket.

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You mistake % of income for amount paid.

 

Yes some rich people pay more in total than a 'poor' person, and even more damning, some 'rich' people pay more than many major banks and multinationals,

 

... but its commonly a far smaller percentage of their income than 'poor' people pay.

Poor people pay a larger percentage of their total income than 'rich' people or major corporations.

 

Supertax in reverse.

 

Not that long ago I actually paid more income tax in a year than a number of major UK banks and financial institutions paid in corporation Tax... Perfectly true

 

Why the populist problem with customs checks to cross the Irish sea to meet International agreements and Law

... when Johnson is happy to implement a Border + Visas to access a lorry park in Kent?

 

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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Then they should pull their fingers out and do some overtime and get rich also.

 

Thats your opinion.

 

Mine is that when you are in a situation where Banks report £Billions in revenue, and £Billions in profit, and have had bailouts and £Billions in state support,

yet pay less corporation tax than just about EACH and EVERY individual working person pays in income tax,

then something is really wrong.

 

 

Why the populist problem with customs checks to cross the Irish sea to meet International agreements and Law

... when Johnson is happy to implement a Border + Visas to access a lorry park in Kent?

 

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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It doesn't say something is wrong, it says they are clever so deserve their bonuses.

 

I would disagree with your stating they deserve the bonus.

 

If its just because they managed to get it that they deserve the reward, then by that logic so does every thief and criminal.

 

or perhaps you mean that they deserve it because they dont get prosecuted for their crimes, despite being caught, unlike more 'common criminals?

Why the populist problem with customs checks to cross the Irish sea to meet International agreements and Law

... when Johnson is happy to implement a Border + Visas to access a lorry park in Kent?

 

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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I would disagree with your stating they deserve the bonus.

 

If its just because they managed to get it that they deserve the reward, then by that logic so does every thief and criminal.

 

or perhaps you mean that they deserve it because they dont get prosecuted for their crimes, despite being caught, unlike more 'common criminals?

 

Exactly

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But they aren't common criminals, they are gentlemen, they went to private schools and are well educated.

 

Jealousy only makes you bitter.

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... but its commonly a far smaller percentage of their income than 'poor' people pay.

Poor people pay a larger percentage of their total income than 'rich' people or major corporations.

 

Dunno how you worked that out, the poor people, as you call them, pay 20%, the rich pay 40 or 45%. Now I could be wrong, but I think 45% is more than 20%.

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Dunno how you worked that out, the poor people, as you call them, pay 20%, the rich pay 40 or 45%. Now I could be wrong, but I think 45% is more than 20%.

 

Yes but 20% of not a lot is a lot more than 40-45% of mega amounts, in relativity. A lot of people not on mega bucks pay 40% https://www.gov.uk/income-tax-rates/current-rates-and-allowances

 

and just to be objective and really controversial which wealthy person do you know paying 40-45% tax, most have very good accountants and then there's offshore etc.

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