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Something similar happened to me.

 

 

A stupid mistake, i understand but i have learnt from my mistake.

 

 

Me and my friend walked into Primark in Oxford Circuis, just having a look around, but she really fancied a t shirt

and realised that the que was disgustingly long and i actually had a study session in college half an hour later so i couldn't wait.

 

 

she really wanted that jumper and it was the last one there of her size.

i decided to do her a favour, she pulled the tag off,and I slipped it into my bag.

As we left, the security grabbed me by my arm and four men surrounded me, (not my friend),

and they snatched my bag off me and searched through it.

Too embarrassed and ashamed to defend myself, they found the jumper and marched me to the back room.

 

there were 2 security in the room, taking details of my name, date of birth, age, MY phone number and address.

My friend later got dragged in and the same happened to her.

 

 

No police were called, nor were our parents.

They jus filled in forms,looked at our IDs and said we should expect a fine of a 3 figure number (for a stupid £8 t shirt) from the RLP.

 

I was jus wondering, what should i do now?

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there were 2 security in the room, taking details of my name, date of birth, age, MY phone number and address. My friend later got dragged in and the same happened to her. No police were called, nor were our parents. They jus filled in forms,looked at our IDs and said we should expect a fine of a 3 figure number (for a stupid £8 t shirt) from the RLP.

 

I was jus wondering, what should i do now?

 

It is not a fine, and as you are under the age of eighteen, RLP can not do anything. They will write a few scary letters to you and possibly your parents, but that is all.

 

What you should do now is to sit down with your parents and have an honest discussion with them and then learn from your mistakes.

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please keep to this thread

 

 

you can safely IGNORE RLP TOTALLY.

 

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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And is it true that this site is being searched and under police investigation (according to RLP)?

 

And Mr.P, I've only given to them my name, date of birth and address, none of my parents details. How will they write to my parents?

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They would write to the address you had given. If this is a student or rented accommodation, any letters addressed to your parents should get returned as "not known at this address".

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And is it true that this site is being searched and under police investigation (according to RLP)?

 

?

 

 

no its was all more stupid hot air by Jackie.

 

 

totally ignore rlp

and anything you read about their silly fleecing games

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi and welcome to CAG.

 

Can I just correct your first post. It wasn't a mistake. It was a choice. Just me being pedantic just don't be so ruddy silly again. Lecture over.

 

I remember well that Jackie 'alleged' that she had been threatened yet never provided evidence. She said CAG was under police investigation. Nope!

 

RLP are acting on behalf of Primark and so are any debt collector so any actions which are harassment can be complained about to Primark. Not that they will care. One the case was passed to RLP, they forgot about you. Primark, to my knowledge, have never taken any shoplifter to court.

 

RLP will send 4 to 6 letters all making various claims which are at best, misleading. RLP can do nothing to you. They may send letters to your parents but they will write to you first and if you don't respond they 'may' write to your parents. I suggest telling your parents if you live at home (and it is safe to do so) then you can show them to CAG and see just how much power RLP actually have...NONE. Any debt collector has even less power that RLP and can be safely ignored.

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Don't bin the letters. If you can, scan them and edit out your personal details then post them up here. We may have seen them before but it is always helpful to see if RLP have changed the letters.

 

I have seen one thread where RLP left a CAGger alone for a year then started again. As you are under 18 they may say they will wait until you turn 18 before beginning action so they could chase for a couple of years but usually they peter out after a year.

 

Examine the letters closely and try not to read too much into them. What they say in the letters may not be what they can actually do.

 

At the top of this forum are some stickies, have a read.

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you also need to stop using that word 'FINE'

 

 

it is NOT A FINE

only the police or the courts can fine you.

 

 

RLP send out speculative invoices.

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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[ATTACH=CONFIG]60757[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]60757[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]60697[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]60698[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]60699[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]60700[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]60701[/ATTACH]These are some I have

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One of those letters will be relevant to you as it relates to the Oxford Street Primark. Not saying you will get exactly the same but it gives some flavour of what to expect

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so when i do turn 18, and they send me the letters, should i still ignore them?

 

always ignore them

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nevr.

 

 

you appear to be missing the point.

 

 

the police and courts are there to dish out fines etc

 

 

they were not, and now cannot be involved.

 

 

RLP are NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the court system.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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nevr.

 

 

you appear to be missing the point.

 

 

the police and courts are there to dish out fines etc

 

 

they were not, and now cannot be involved.

 

 

RLP are NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the court system.

 

 

Totally agree. This is the reason

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?369114-Trial-transcript-A-Retailer-v-Ms-B-and-Ms-K-Oxford-County-Court-9-May-2012

 

Since July 2012 there have been no further cases undertaken by any retailer.

 

RLP can NEVER take any action. Only Primark can and they don't as it will cost them far more than they could ever get back. RLP are a money making company ONLY. They say they are a deterrent company but if everybody stopped shoplifting (something we can only hope for) RLP would shut down.

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What hassle? Treat it as junk mail. Because thats all it is.

Any advice i give is my own and is based solely on personal experience. If in any doubt about a situation , please contact a certified legal representative or debt counsellor..

 

 

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One of the many problems teenagers face is a lack of understanding legalese. What need have they of it? On the whole, very little so when a letter arrives and is full of words that are not fully understood, can lead to an increase in pressure. In RLP letters they state their client has a right to claim for their losses. This is true. What they cannot do is inflate actual losses.

 

Two examples for you.

 

1. I take an item costing £5. I get detained by security staff. The item is fit for resale. What loss has occurred?

a) Security staff are paid irrespective of whether they detain anyone so no loss there.

b) The goods were fit for resale. No loss there.

c) Admin time for security staff. Again they are paid already so no loss there.

d) Passing a file to RLP. No cost there. (well fractions of a penny as they would email the paperwork)

 

So, no real loss to the store so where does RLP get the figure £300 - £500 from? Their imagination obviously

 

2. I take an item costing £5. I run away. Security staff and a cashier chase me. Catch me. The goods are broken in the struggle. What can they claim?

 

a) The goods are broken so the store can claim £5

b) security costs? No (as they are already paid and they are just doing the job they are paid for)

c) The cashier. Yes. The cashier was taken away from their usual duty so their time can be claimed but only the time. no added extras.

d) Loss of profit. Very tricky area. Whilst the cashier was otherwise busy, customers may have left the store rather than face a longer queue. This could be claimed but how much? Very difficult if not impossible to assess.

e) Admin. There would be some admin costs involved as this case would be a bit more tricky.

 

Even then, the £300 - £500 claimed is rather excessive.

 

In fact, IF any store took action through the courts, it would be in the small claims track meaning claimant costs are fixed. In my (fictitious) case, it would cost the retailer £25 to file the claim (online) plus solicitors costs of (usually) £50. This is just the beginning. If they attend court, the retailer has to pay for a solicitor and that isn't cheap.

 

So, as mentioned. Treat the letters as spam. Try not to let them stress you out. They may stop writing until you turn 18 but even then they can still do nothing.

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