Leisure Leagues Small sided football repayment

[Bfish93]

Hi guys,

 

I'm not entirely sure this is the right place, but hopefully someone can redirect the thread if not.

 

I started a football team with a company who run various leagues across the country.

I signed the terms and conditions before I started,

accepting that I had to give 2 weeks notice to leave the league

and if I didn't that we'd owe money.

 

Due to circumstances involving the players we could no longer put together a team and left the league with no notice.

 

As a result, I was sent a letter directly from them saying I owed £81 to the league and that it needs to be made within 14 days or the fine would double.

I replied with a letter explaining our circumstances and hoping they'd show some sympathy, however they insist that it needs to be paid.

 

Obviously I knew potentially what would happen, and that we would owe the money,

but I was just wondering where exactly I stand with this?

 

 

My name is registered and a different address to my own,

but somewhere I regularly stay if that makes any difference to it at all.

 

I see online of people being taken to court eventually over similar events, is it best just to pay it and be done?

 

Thanks!

[martin2006]

Post the redacted agreement and suitable help will follow

[Bfish93]

I can't post links yet, but here's the section from their website.

 

11i If a team fails to turn up for a scheduled fixture without giving Leisure Leagues 7 days’ notice, they lose the fixture 5-0 and will be charged the full match fee for the missed game. Teams who wish to withdraw from the league need to give two weeks’ notice of their intent to withdraw from the league and are required to pay for and play two full matches prior to withdrawal; failure to adhere to this will result in the Team Captain being charged their full two weeks match fees for both missed fixtures.

11j If a team fails to attend two consecutive matches and fails to inform Leisure Leagues Head Office of their intention to withdraw from the league then they will be liable for both missed match fees and will also be charged their two weeks withdrawal notice on top of these match fees.

[stu007]

Is it to do with this lot or another?: http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?404625-Champion-Soccer-requesting-money&highlight=football+league

[Bfish93]

It's from a company called Leisure Leagues. I can't post any links yet unfortunately due to my post count!

[stu007]

Just for clarity what Bfish93 has quoted in post#3 is from Leisure Leagues Rules and Regulations: http://www.leisureleagues.net/The-Game/Rules.aspx

[dx100uk]

if you look around

you'll see we've had several instances of these minor football league fixtures people

wanting money after the day or when things go bad.

 

 

don't think there are any court cases

show us where.

 

 

you'll get scary letters

then more scary letters from DCA's

who are not bailiffs

and have no legal powers.

 

 

dx

[dx100uk]

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?440496-County-court-judgement-threats-in-respect-of-Football-league-payments

[Bfish93]

Ok thanks,

 

Just not sure about taking the risk. I had a search on google yesterday and leisure leagues seem pretty certain on chasing the money, including a court case for recovering money they were owed. Is £81 worth the risk? I'm not so sure!

[dx100uk]

they wont do court on £81!!

 

 

hot air and red letters

 

 

dx

[Bfish93]

Well, not on £81 but they've theeatened £162 if I don't pay within 14 days.. I presume it'll keep multiplying!

[havinastella]

Well, not on £81 but they've theeatened £162 if I don't pay within 14 days.. I presume it'll keep multiplying!

 

So, you don't owe them £162, £324 etc. Because if you do, you now owe me £500. Would you pay me it?

[renegadeimp]

You dont owe them anything, and they cant simply double it because they feel like it. The law doesnt allow it.

[Bfish93]

I can't post links on here yet, but there's another on this form relating to a company called soccersixes. Exactly the same thing but different company.

 

I don't really want them to keep sending letters to my girlfriends address to be honest, especially threats.

 

Also above, I appreciate what you're saying, but I know it could come to nothing, but the threat of court etc. doesn't appeal me much, and £81 is a relatively small price to avoid that?

 

I have agreed terms and conditions agreeing to pay if we withdraw, does not mean I owe money?

[dx100uk]

no it doesn't.

 

 

T&C can always be challenged

don't fall for the willy waving please.

 

 

forget them

no claims have ever been issues

esp by soccersixes

simply out to fleece people

 

 

scary DCA letters next

 

 

dx

[renegadeimp]

Please start listening to the advice given here. Your situation is no different than any of the others. Just because they put some random clause in the terms and conditions doesnt mean that the clause is legally enforceable.

[havinastella]

I can't post links on here yet, but there's another on this form relating to a company called soccersixes. Exactly the same thing but different company.

 

I don't really want them to keep sending letters to my girlfriends address to be honest, especially threats.

 

Also above, I appreciate what you're saying, but I know it could come to nothing, but the threat of court etc. doesn't appeal me much, and £81 is a relatively small price to avoid that?

 

I have agreed terms and conditions agreeing to pay if we withdraw, does not mean I owe money?

 

 

PAY it then!

[renegadeimp]

You dont need to pay them a penny. But you can do so if you wish. Just understand that you would have just wasted £81 when you could have spent it on something else.

 

It would also beg the question, why did you come here for advice if you were going to pay it anyway?

[JoeyJoeC]

They have not made a loss.